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I am planning a trip to Israel in the near future, and as a Catholic want to experience what Christ experienced. Is there anyone here who visited this land, and should I go with a group, like maybe a priest or someone for safety??
I really want to go, but I am afraid of the constant fighting there, but I suppose I should go and just have faith that everything will be ok.
I’ve been to Rome and I must go to Israel to see everything Christ revealed to us. It is a dream for me and I’d like some advice… thanks.
I know I will break down in certain spots that Christ was in, like His Crucifixtion, etc…even if someone Jewish here can tell me it’s ok to go, I will. I hear Tel Aviv airport is extremely secure.
 
Dont worry, I would feel safer walking around anywhere in Israel than in Chicago, DC, Dallas, New York, etc.
 
Lev23 said:
Dont worry, I would feel safer walking around anywhere in Israel than in Chicago, DC, Dallas, New York, etc.
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Really?? I am afraid going from the airport to the hotel with the Palestinians blowing up everything…why couldn’t it be easy to see everything Jesus had done? Perhaps it was meant to be hard.
Can a Catholic go to the Wailing Wall? After all, it is respect for the Israeli’s to visit that holy place of theirs.
Can I walk around with a crucifix around my neck? I would anyway.
What is a traditional Jewish breakfast the cruise said we would have in Israel?
 
Righteousone said:
Can a Catholic go to the Wailing Wall? After all, it is respect for the Israeli’s to visit that holy place of theirs.
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Do you understand that Israel is a secular nation? The Wall is a Jewish Holy place in Israel, not an Israeli holy place.
 
I understand what the wailing wall is, the Romans destroyed it. Therefore, as a Jewish person would come to Rome to visit the Vatican out of respect, I would visit the wailing wall out of respect, no?
I don’t know. My main concern is Christ.
 
Namesake said:
Do you understand that Israel is a secular nation? The Wall is a Jewish Holy place in Israel, not an Israeli holy place.
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Israel cannot be a secular nation with all the Catholic churches there…I know they deny Christ, in ways I don’t understand, since the OT foretells everything there is to know about the Messiah that came true. They believe what they believe.
 
Righteousone said:
I understand what the wailing wall is, the Romans destroyed it. Therefore, as a Jewish person would come to Rome to visit the Vatican out of respect, I would visit the wailing wall out of respect, no?
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You will be paying respect to Jews, not Israelis.
 
Righteousone said:
Israel cannot be a secular nation with all the Catholic churches there…I know they deny Christ, in ways I don’t understand, since the OT foretells everything there is to know about the Messiah that came true. They believe what they believe.
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Israel is officially a secular nation. That doesn’t mean there aren’t religious people there, it just means that the nation of Israel is not officially a theocracy. It is not governed by Jews for Jews. It is secular just as the USA is a secular nation, thankfully.

Iran is a theocracy, as is Saudi Arabia, Pakistan…
 
Righteousone said:
Israels, Jews, what’s the difference?? :confused: don’t forget where Christianity comes from, the Jews.
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The difference is that Jews live in Israel and lots of other countries. Not all Israelis are Jews by a long shot. Lots of Israelis are Christians, Muslims, atheists, etc.

The Wall is a Jewish holy place located in Israel. It is not an Israeli holy place because Israel doesn’t have holy places since Israel is secular. But there are lots of holy places in Israel.

And remember that Christianity doesn’t come from Israelis.
 
Righteousone said:
I don’t think this is right, as we don’t tell them to remove their Star of David at the Vatican.
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Well you know a lot are praying for THEIR Messiah to come and rebuild the Temple and rescue them from Muslims and Christians so they don’t want to see anything about Jesus there. I wouldn’t go saying I’m a Christian there to support Jews or anything unless you want to create a scene.
 
Righteousone said:
I am planning a trip to Israel in the near future, and as a Catholic want to experience what Christ experienced. Is there anyone here who visited this land, and should I go with a group, like maybe a priest or someone for safety??
I really want to go, but I am afraid of the constant fighting there, but I suppose I should go and just have faith that everything will be ok.
I’ve been to Rome and I must go to Israel to see everything Christ revealed to us. It is a dream for me and I’d like some advice… thanks.
I know I will break down in certain spots that Christ was in, like His Crucifixtion, etc…even if someone Jewish here can tell me it’s ok to go, I will. I hear Tel Aviv airport is extremely secure.
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Perhaps you can join the pilgrims from Indonesia. Usually we had no major problems visiting many sites. But please made a check of what language the guide will use. From what I know, many sites are attended by Fransiscan ordo or the eastern orthodox.
 
Righteousone said:
Israels, Jews, what’s the difference?? :confused: don’t forget where Christianity comes from, the Jews.
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Not all Israelis are Jews, and not all Jews are Israelis.

Having said that - I concur: I lived in Jerusalem for 6 months, and I felt safe walking the 10 km home from the City to the suburb of Gilo where I lived - even late at night.
I would NEVER, EVER have done this in Copenhagen, or any other Danish city.

Consider this:
The IDF is EVERYWHERE, and so are police patrols. It’s not like you see them every time you turn a corner - but you know that they’ll be on the scene faster than you can say “happy Chanukkah”, because there are simply that many.

So, to make a long story short: I felt safer in Jerusalem than I did in Copenhagen, and even here in Århus…
 
LutheranDK said:
Not all Israelis are Jews, and not all Jews are Israelis.

Having said that - I concur: I lived in Jerusalem for 6 months, and I felt safe walking the 10 km home from the City to the suburb of Gilo where I lived - even late at night.
I would NEVER, EVER have done this in Copenhagen, or any other Danish city.

Consider this:
The IDF is EVERYWHERE, and so are police patrols. It’s not like you see them every time you turn a corner - but you know that they’ll be on the scene faster than you can say “happy Chanukkah”, because there are simply that many.

So, to make a long story short: I felt safer in Jerusalem than I did in Copenhagen, and even here in Århus…
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That’s good to know. Thanks. And remember, Jesus WAS a born a Jew…
 
Namesake said:
Israel is officially a secular nation. That doesn’t mean there aren’t religious people there, it just means that the nation of Israel is not officially a theocracy. It is not governed by Jews for Jews. It is secular just as the USA is a secular nation, thankfully.

Iran is a theocracy, as is Saudi Arabia, Pakistan…
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Sorry, but the USA will never be a complete secular nation which they are trying so hard to do. It gets worn out after a while and no one finds it satisfying, the odd cults and movements that offer temporary community but no permanent home. Our tired world is becoming more desperate, and people are turning toward the Catholic church.
 
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