The Jewish Oral Torah and Catholic Sacred Tradition

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There are some, particularly amidst our Evangelical brethren, who believe that Jesus repudiated the Jewish Oral Torah and rejected it. Usually this stems from the “sola scriptura” theology of some strands of Protestantism.

I believe that this view is false. I propose instead that in its essence, when seen in light of the New Testament and Jesus’ understanding of Oral Torah, much of the Oral Torah is divinely inspired Word of God.

As is written on wikipedia:

"…Within Christianity, Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches see the oral tradition as being transformed by Jesus Christ both in content (Mark 7:7–9) and in agency (Matthew 18:18 and Acts 10:14) to become the new Sacred Tradition. This view sees a certain continuity in the tradition, with Jesus having the authority to break some traditions, as seen in Matthew 15:1, 2, 7–11, and to establish others, as in John 20:23. Protestant Christians tend to set the oral Law in opposition to the writings of Scripture. In this view, the Tanakh is of historical interest only…"

Catholicism is thus more compatible with Orthodox Judaism than is muc of Protestant tradition, whom I feel have more in common with Karaite Jews.

Scholars, have noticed that, “The teachings of Jesus show the closest affinity to that of the Pharisees.”

Mat 23:1 Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples,
Mat 23:2 saying: "The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat.
Mat 23:3 Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do.

Jesus recognised that the Pharisees were correct and the Sadducees who were anti-Oral Torah, were wrong. The Pharisees were the legitimate successors to Moses and sat on his “Chair”, not the Saducees who had become corrupted.

Jesus upheld Oral Torah, he was merely opposed to some Pharisees ABUSING AND MISUSING IT to further their own ends, that is why he said…

Jesus said, “The pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of knowledge and hidden them. They themselves have not entered, nor have they allowed to enter those who wish to".

What “keys of knowledge” is Jesus suggesting the Pharisees had? The answer is obvious: The Oral Traditions from Moses that were passed down but not codified in the Written Torah that gave them the authority to interpret the Torah and provided them with the proper understanding of the written text. Jesus recognised that the Pharisees did indeed occupy Moses’ Chair - they were has successors and they did have access to “keys of knowledge”, the Oral Torah, which the Sadducee Priests did not. He merely objected to their misuse of it, their failure to properly educate common Jews in the oral Torah or too live by its precepts. He chastised them for hypocrisy but he did not reject the Oral Torah - on the contrary he recognised that they had access to this source!

Read the following, where the scholar Davies explains what Jesus meant when he spoke of the Pharisees having the “keys of knowledge” in the synoptic gospels:

"It assumed (by Jesus) that Pharisees and scribes do in fact have the keys of knowledge…and that they have not taken advantage of their possesion of those keys, and that they will let no one else take advantage either…The Pharisees claimed to have access to an ‘Oral Torah’ in addition to the written books of Moses…their knowledge of that special source of revelation about God’s Law was the ‘key of knowledge’ under discussion (by Jesus)"

Matthew 23:23

23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Whilst He chides the Pharisees for their lack of perspective regarding more important issues, Messiah doesn’t chastise their judgement about tithing on herbs (in the context of a fully functional Temple and Levitical Priesthood). On the contrary: He endorses it… He tells them that THEY SHOULD uphold this Oral tradition as observant Jews, but that it shouldn’t be placed above the weightier matters of Torah.

Equally, there’s quite a compelling case for arguing that Messiah and His disciples observed a traditional Pesach Seder (“Old Testament Passover” tradition) in accordance with the Mishnah.

Christ certainly didn’t say: “and every syllable uttered by the rabbinic sages will remain until heaven and earth pass” but he also didn’t reject it.

The Scribes and Pharisees indeed did have a delegated judicial authority to interpret the application of scripture to specific cases. The Mishnah arguably contains material which would have been extant as “oral” Torah in the first century at the time when Christ endorsed (at least some of) the judgements of the Scribes and Pharisees in Matthew 23:1-3.

Subject to the above qualifications, insofar as the Mishnah clarifies the specific application of scriptural principles without contradiction, or making additional (or indeed lesser) demands or building a “hedge around the law”, then they’re deemed valid by Matthew 23:1-3.

To find out more got to: judianity.info/pharisaic-…raditions.html
 
To sum up: within Christianity, Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches see the oral tradition as being transformed by Jesus Christ both in content (Mark 7:7-9) and in agency (Matthew 18:18 and Acts 10:14) to become the new Sacred Tradition. This view sees a certain continuity in the tradition, with Jesus having the authority to break some traditions, as seen in Matthew 15:1, 2, 7-11, and to establish others, as in John 20:23. Ultimately, Oral Torah was binding on Jews and in essence basically authentic, however man-made traditions had also crept in and their was misuse of the oral Torah, sometimes to the extent that Oral Torah was placed above the Written Torah which is GRAVE error.

The New Testament - Sacred Scripture - actually makes use of some Oral Torah (Talmudic) stories ie James 5:17-18:

17 Elijah was a human being, even as we are. He prayed earnestly that it would not rain, and it did not rain on the land for three and a half years.

The Book of Kings makes no mention of Elijah’s ‘prayer’ but an Aggadah in the Talmud does, see Sanhedrin 113a. There are many more examples of this, like Jude 1:9 -

**But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not dare to bring a slanderous accusation against him, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” **

This delightful story is not biblical it comes from the Oral Torah, namely Targum Yonatan and Deuteronomy Rabbah.

As non-Jews, all these centuries later, we do not need to follow all the commandments (mitzvot) of the Oral Torah, out with its moral guidance which I find to be extremely beneficial to my spiritual life, particularly the Pirke Avot. However it is still a repository of Divine inspiration and so has an abiding legacy and is worthy of our deepest respect. Jesus abrogated certain parts of it for Christians but he did not dispute its Divine origin and authority over Jews during his lifetime before the destruction of the Temple.

In the following post I am going to quote from a document online that demonstrates how similar the teachings of the Oral Torah are to that of Jesus in the New Testament. They align with each other, rather than conflict.
 
TALMUD: Man has two hands, but he is not to rob with the one and give donations with the other. (Talmud, Midrash Proverbs 11)
GOSPEL: When you give to the poor, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving will be in secret; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. (Matthew 6:3-4)

TALMUD: Swear not at all, not even to the truth. (Talmud, Tanchum, Vayikra)
GOSPEL: I tell you, Do not swear at all. (Matthew 5:34)

TALMUD: The pure of heart are God’s friends. (Talmud, Genesis Rabba 41)
GOSPEL: Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. (Matthew 5:8)

TALMUD: If you intend to put man to rights, put yourself to rights first. (Talmud, Midrash Psalms 53)
GOSPEL: Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?..You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye. (Matthew 7:3-5)

TALMUD: Have no compunction to chastise where chastisement is called for. It will produce not animosity, but eventually love and peace. (Talmud, Genesis Rabba 54)
GOSPEL: Moreover if your brother should trespass against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he will hear you, you have gained your brother. (Matthew 18:16)

TALMUD: God knows our thoughts before they are formed. (Talmud, Genesis Rabba 9)
GOSPEL: Your Father knows what you need before you ask Him. (Matthew 6:8)

TALMUD: The truth of the Torah is a weapon to its possessor. (Talmud, Numbers Rabba 12)
GOSPEL: Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. (Matthew 10:34)

TALMUD: One of the characteristics of the righteous is that their yes is yes, and their no is no. (Talmud, Midrash Ruth 7)
GOSPEL: Simply let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No’ be ‘No’, anything beyond this comes from the evil one. (Matthew 5:37)

TALMUD: Man’s eyes and his heart prompt him to sin. (Talmud, Numbers Rabba 17)
GOSPEL: I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. (Matthew 5:28)

TALMUD: Immediately when a man is born he proceeds into death, when he dies he proceeds into life. (Talmud, Midrash Samuel 23)
GOSPELS: He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it. (Matthew 10:39)

TALMUD: The Guardian Angels are always near God’s throne. (Talmud, Tanchum, Sazrea)
GOSPELS: Take heed that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I say unto you that in Heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in Heaven. (Matthew 18:10)

TALMUD: God lends eloquence to the suppliant. (Talmud, Midrash Proverbs 15)
GOSPEL: Do not worry about how or what you are to say, for it will be given you in that hour what you are to say. For it is not you who speak, but it is the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you. (Matthew 10:19-20)

TALMUD: No one can imagine the reward of him who accepts all his sorrows and reverses with religious resignation. (Talmud, Tanchum, Kee Saizai)
GOSPEL: Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven. (Matthew 5:11-12)

TALMUD: Adultery can be committed with the eyes. (Talmud, Leviticus Rabba 23)
GOSPEL: I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. (Matthew 5:28)

TALMUD: What Solomon meant to convey by the words, ‘What profit has a man of all his labor which he does under the sun?’ (Ecclesiaste 1:2) is that whatever a man may possess on earth, under the sun, he must inevitably part with, but it is different if he provides for himself above the sun, in Heaven. (Talmud, Midrash Ecclesiastes 1)
GOSPEL: A man came up to Jesus and asked, "Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?’…Jesus answered, ‘If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in Heaven. Then come, follow me.’ (Matthew 19:16-21)

TALMUD: As the sea throws up its debris upon the shores, so the wicked have filthiness upon their mouths. (Talmud, Midrash Psalms 2)
GOSPELS: Jesus asked them. ‘Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these make a man unclean. For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.’ (Matthew 15:16-19)
 
TALMUD: When no justice is done here below, it will be accomplished from above. (Talmud, Deuteronomy Rabba 5)
GOSPEL: But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first. (Matthew 19:30)

TALMUD: Swear not at all, not even to the truth. (Talmud, Tanchum, Vayikra)
GOSPEL: I tell you, Do not swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God’s throne; or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. (Matthew 5:34-36)

TALMUD: To do justice and righteousness is more acceptable to God than sacrifices (Proverbs 21:3)…Sacrifices atoned only for sins committed in error not for presumptuous sin, justice and righteousness atone for all sins. (Talmud, Deuteronmy Rabba 5)
GOSPEL If only you had known what this means, ‘I desire mercy, and not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the guiltless. (Matthew 12:7)

TALMUD: Let no man boast of his exalted position. Even so great a man as Samuel received a rebuke for his lack of modesty. (Talmud, Midrash Samuel 12)
GOSPEL: Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 18:4)

TALMUD: God will wipe away tears from off all faces (Isaiah 25:8). This means from the faces of non-Jews as well as Jews. (Talmud, Genesis Rabba 26)
GOSPEL: Behold, my servant whom I have chosen…I will put my Spirit upon him, and he shall declare judgment to the Gentiles…And in his name shall the Gentiles hope. (Matthew 12:18-21)

TALMUD: The leper, the blind, the abject poor, and those who have no children are as though they are dead. (Talmud, Tanchum,Tsav)
GOSPEL: Another of the disciples said to Him, ‘Lord, permit me first to go and bury my father.’ But Jesus said to him, ‘Follow Me, and allow the dead to bury their own dead.’ (Matthew 8:21-22)

TALMUD: When no justice is done here below, it will be accomplished from above. (Talmud, Deuteronomy Rabba 5)
GOSPEL: Many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first. (Matthew 19:30)

TALMUD: He who hears himself abused (or cursed) and does not retaliate may be called a saintly man. (Talmud, Midrash Psalms 16)
GOSPEL: I tell you do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. (Matthew 5:38)

TALMUD: The proverb says, ‘If you give out your money in usury you will lose what you gain as well as your original capital.’ (Talmud, Leviticus Rabba 3)
GOSPEL: For whoever has, to him shall be given and he shall have abundance: but whoever has not, from him shall be taken away even that which he has. (Matthew 13:12)

TALMUD: The righteous are put to more and severer trials than the unrighteous. (Talmud, Tanchum,Vaayro)
GOSPEL: Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:10)

TALMUD: When the prophets went forth on their mission the Holy Spirit rested upon them, awed and surprised their audience, and inspired them with respect for the prophets. (Talmud, Numbers Rabba 10)
GOSPEL: Jesus summoned His twelve disciples and gave them authority over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal every kind of disease and every kind of sickness…These twelve Jesus sent out after instructing them: ‘Do not go in the way of the Gentiles…but rather go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel…Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, cast out demons. Freely you received, freely give.’ (Matthew 10:1-8
 
May I add that it should not be thought accidental that both Judaism and Christianity have Oral Torah and Sacred Tradition, respectively. This was and has always been part of Divine providence, first for the Children of Israel through the Oral Torah passed down by the fathers from Moses to the first century Pharisees (subsequently codified in the Mishnah) and then in the Sacred Tradition of Christianity, which is the successor of Oral Torah since Jesus is the New Moses and thus instituted a New Testament as well as a new ‘Oral Torah’, the Church’s Sacred Tradition which in Catholicism at least has been codified in the Catechism, whilst for holy Orthodoxy it is not codified in one document but is exactly the same in content.

As the old Moses gave both written and oral Torah on Mount Sinai, so too did the new Moses - Jesus Christ - create for his disciples both written Gospel (through his Apostles) and Sacred Tradition (passed down by himself, through his Apostles to their appointed successors the bishops, priests etc.). From our mindset the Church Fathers and their predecessors the Apostolic Fathers and their predecessors the Apostles and their predecessor Christ and his predecessor the Jewish Fathers (Rabbis) and their predecessor Moses, all stem from the one divine source: God.

When I say that the Jewish Rabbis were “predecessors” to Christ, I do not thereby exclude the many contemporary and post-Jesus Rabbis who completed, codified and defined the Oral Torah. I think that the Holy Spirit did not depart from these men, who carried on the Jewish Oral Torah and Halakha faithfully and brought to its complete form.

Saint Paul, in the New Testament told us to “hold fast to the traditions”. Catholics and Orthodox Christians, like our Jewish forbears before us, have been eternally faithful to that injuntion. Our written Torah is now the Gospel and New Testament, while our Oral Torah is the Sacred Tradition instituted by Jesus to succeed the Jewish Oral Torah. The most compelling piece of evidence in the New Testament for the Oral Tradition comes from the mouth of Jesus himself. And not only to obey halacha but to generate their own as well. Matthew 16:19 says: “And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven”.

We know that the Hebrew word translated as bind is a Hebrew idiom meaning to forbid, while the Hebrew word that is translated loose is a Hebrew idiom meaning to permit. Jesus (as Rabbi of his sect) was giving his disciples the authority to make halachic decisions. In other words the decisions you make theologically (making halacha) will be accepted in heaven, which is validation not only of the Sacred Tradition instituted by Jesus but the gift of the Holy Spirit who would through the Apostles and successors maintain and solidify this divine authority through the decisions, councils and dogmas of the Church which Jesus promised would have heavenly and thus infallible authority not only on earth but in heaven also. The will and mind and dogmas of the Church are thus, from our perspective, Sacred Tradition, directly authored by the Holy Spirit and thus Divine in origin just as from the Orthodox Jewish perspective both the Written and Oral Torahs are binding on Jews.
 
I think most of the examples people use to demonstrate how Jesus “rejected” the Oral Torah, are not “rejections” at all but abrogations. As the Messiah Jesus had the right to decide which laws no longer applied to both Jews and all of humanity. Only very rarely did he reject a supposed tradition, and that was only when a tradition conflicted with scripture and so could not possibly be part of the true Oral Torah ie helping human beings on the Sabbath. The group of Pharisees who debated with Jesus, according to the Gospels, thought that if humans needed help on the Sabbath they should be left to suffer or die because no “work” could be done on Sabbath. And yet they would care for sick animals on the Sabbath. This is obviously against written Torah and its command to “love thy neighbour as thy self” and so cannot posibly be true Oral Torah. Thereby Jesus tells us that this is “man-made” tradition. Man-made traditions are not genuine parts of Oral Torah. No portion of authentic Oral Torah was rejected by Jesus. The parts rejected should be viewed as late additions to Oral Torah, not authentically “Mosaic” in origin. Others are regarded in the gospel as fully authentic but simply no longer applicable, being abrogated by God’s New Testament.

However where Oral Torah does not conflict with written Torah, which is the vast bulk of it I hasten to add, then Jesus tells us that the Oral Torah in this respect is fully binding on Jews and is to be viewed as genuine Oral Torah and thus inspired. The early Jewish Christians followed these regulations, it was only when the Temple collapsed and Christianity became a predominantly Gentile faith that these were no longer followed because Jesus had abrogated and succedeed them with Sacred Tradition. Jews are still free, when they become Christians, to follow these regulations since they are still divine in origin although not necessary for salvation. So Jesus upheld all authentic Oral Torah, rejected non-authentic man-made additions and furthermore abrogated the authentic Oral Torah with Sacred Tradition, just as he abrogated the Old Covenant with the New one in his blood. As with before, Jewish Christians (ie Hebrew Catholics) are still free to observe all these regulations so long as they recognize that, although they can be followed as part of their cultural heritage and out faithfulness to God’s Covenant with them (which was never and can never be rescinded), they are not necessary for salvation, despite their eternal and irrecovacbly binding nature.

Some might argue: *The oral Torah calls upon the individual to pray in company with a minimum of ten men. Jesus advises his followers, ‘when you pray,’ to pray by yourself, ‘in secret’. This is another instance where Jesus rejects an aspect of oral Torah. Jesus doesn’t critique them on the basis of misuse or abuse. Perhaps misuse would be praying to be seen by men. Overall Jesus breaks this tradition. He thus rejects Oral Torah. *

The example given above of prayer reflects an evolution in understanding. The rabbinic understanding that an individual must pray with a minimum of ten men is simply outdated, not wrong. Jesus brought a more individualist religion than the communal salvation that was more reflective of Judaism. Thats abrogation not a rejection of the former, which is inspired but simply no longer as applicable as it once was. According to rabbinic law certain prayers can only be said when a prayer minyan is assembled. The minimum number that defines a congregation is set at 10 adult males (Babylonian Talmud Berakhot 21b [as traditionally interpreted]). This is based upon Moses’ designation of the 10 scouts who explored the land of Israel at his command as a congregation (edah, Numbers 14:27). This Oral tradition is thus completely corroborated by scripture and thus must, according to Jesus’ logic in Matthew, be regarded by us as genuine Oral Torah that is now abrogated by the laws of the Gospel. Also, Oral Torah also says that it is permissable and beneficial to pray alone. Jesus has merely re-interpreted Oral Torah. As Messiah he is now saying that individual prayer is just as important as communal. However he does not denigrate communal for he says later on that “Where two or three gather in my name I am with them”. The only change made is that a minyan now has a minum of 3 people rather than the Talmudic 10. Jesus did not say that individual prayer now trumped minyan/communal prayer, he said that communal prayer done for show was wrong - but the Oral Torah says this too! So he was simply confirming Oral Torah and the only abrogation he made was concerning what constituted a ‘minyan’ - 3 now as opposed to 10.
 
Quite a post, Vouthon! While we can discuss some of these ideas later (for now, I’m preparing for the hurricane!), I generally agree with much of what you are saying regarding the Written Law (Torah) and the Oral Law (Talmud), and how the latter is linked to the New Testament Gospel, with certain changes. One point I’d like to make here: the Talmud is divided into the Mishnah (the Mosaic Oral Law) and the Gemara, or rabbinical commentaries, including commentaries upon the commentaries, which often disagree with one another and further interpret Torah, while applying it to more modern life situations. Except for the internal disagreement so characteristic of Judaism, I think the Catechism does a kind of update to modern life as well. Perhaps I’m wrong on this.
 
Quite a post, Vouthon! While we can discuss some of these ideas later (for now, I’m preparing for the hurricane!), I generally agree with much of what you are saying regarding the Written Law (Torah) and the Oral Law (Talmud), and how the latter is linked to the New Testament Gospel, with certain changes. One point I’d like to make here: the Talmud is divided into the Mishnah (the Mosaic Oral Law) and the Gemara, or rabbinical commentaries, including commentaries upon the commentaries, which often disagree with one another and further interpret Torah, while applying it to more modern life situations. Except for the internal disagreement so characteristic of Judaism, I think the Catechism does a kind of update to modern life as well. Perhaps I’m wrong on this.
Dear Meltzerboy 🙂

I will pray for you dear brother! I have heard about this hurricane affecting the United States - Irene I believe its called? It must be frightening!

The Gemara is very similar to our Church Fathers. In essence, the Church Fathers are not “inspired public revelation”, that is “Word of God” but their writings do contain, witness too, interpret, comment on and pass on Sacred Tradition, which is the Word of God.

Thus I see a similarity between:
  • Mishnah + Sacred Tradition = Word of God
And
  • Gemara + Writings of the Apostolic and Church Fathers = Commentary on Word of God (Oral Torah/Sacred Tradition)
I look forward to your (name removed by moderator)ut when this dreadful hurricane passes! 👍
 
very interesting points from both of you! good luck meltzerboy! i pray the hurricane will weaken before it reaches new york city!
 
Hey Vouthron, very interesting thread. I think the problem occurs when a person assumes that there is no distinction between false tradition and Holy Tradition. For example, John 10:22 presents Jesus as promoting the extra-biblical tradition of Hanukah, which according to many non-catholics, should have been rejected by Jesus. Jesus and the Apostles made a definite distinction between false traditions and Holy Tradition but they never made any distinction between Scripture and Tradition.
There are some, particularly amidst our Evangelical brethren, who believe that Jesus repudiated the Jewish Oral Torah and rejected it. Usually this stems from the “sola scriptura” theology of some strands of Protestantism.

I believe that this view is false. I propose instead that in its essence, when seen in light of the New Testament and Jesus’ understanding of Oral Torah, much of the Oral Torah is divinely inspired Word of God.

As is written on wikipedia:

"…Within Christianity, Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches see the oral tradition as being transformed by Jesus Christ both in content (Mark 7:7–9) and in agency (Matthew 18:18 and Acts 10:14) to become the new Sacred Tradition. This view sees a certain continuity in the tradition, with Jesus having the authority to break some traditions, as seen in Matthew 15:1, 2, 7–11, and to establish others, as in John 20:23. Protestant Christians tend to set the oral Law in opposition to the writings of Scripture. In this view, the Tanakh is of historical interest only…"

Catholicism is thus more compatible with Orthodox Judaism than is muc of Protestant tradition, whom I feel have more in common with Karaite Jews.

Scholars, have noticed that, “The teachings of Jesus show the closest affinity to that of the Pharisees.”

Mat 23:1 Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples,
Mat 23:2 saying: "The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat.
Mat 23:3 Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do.

Jesus recognised that the Pharisees were correct and the Sadducees who were anti-Oral Torah, were wrong. The Pharisees were the legitimate successors to Moses and sat on his “Chair”, not the Saducees who had become corrupted.

Jesus upheld Oral Torah, he was merely opposed to some Pharisees ABUSING AND MISUSING IT to further their own ends, that is why he said…

Jesus said, “The pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of knowledge and hidden them. They themselves have not entered, nor have they allowed to enter those who wish to".

What “keys of knowledge” is Jesus suggesting the Pharisees had? The answer is obvious: The Oral Traditions from Moses that were passed down but not codified in the Written Torah that gave them the authority to interpret the Torah and provided them with the proper understanding of the written text. Jesus recognised that the Pharisees did indeed occupy Moses’ Chair - they were has successors and they did have access to “keys of knowledge”, the Oral Torah, which the Sadducee Priests did not. He merely objected to their misuse of it, their failure to properly educate common Jews in the oral Torah or too live by its precepts. He chastised them for hypocrisy but he did not reject the Oral Torah - on the contrary he recognised that they had access to this source!

Read the following, where the scholar Davies explains what Jesus meant when he spoke of the Pharisees having the “keys of knowledge” in the synoptic gospels:

"It assumed (by Jesus) that Pharisees and scribes do in fact have the keys of knowledge…and that they have not taken advantage of their possesion of those keys, and that they will let no one else take advantage either…The Pharisees claimed to have access to an ‘Oral Torah’ in addition to the written books of Moses…their knowledge of that special source of revelation about God’s Law was the ‘key of knowledge’ under discussion (by Jesus)"

Matthew 23:23

23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Whilst He chides the Pharisees for their lack of perspective regarding more important issues, Messiah doesn’t chastise their judgement about tithing on herbs (in the context of a fully functional Temple and Levitical Priesthood). On the contrary: He endorses it… He tells them that THEY SHOULD uphold this Oral tradition as observant Jews, but that it shouldn’t be placed above the weightier matters of Torah.

Equally, there’s quite a compelling case for arguing that Messiah and His disciples observed a traditional Pesach Seder (“Old Testament Passover” tradition) in accordance with the Mishnah.

Christ certainly didn’t say: “and every syllable uttered by the rabbinic sages will remain until heaven and earth pass” but he also didn’t reject it.

The Scribes and Pharisees indeed did have a delegated judicial authority to interpret the application of scripture to specific cases. The Mishnah arguably contains material which would have been extant as “oral” Torah in the first century at the time when Christ endorsed (at least some of) the judgements of the Scribes and Pharisees in Matthew 23:1-3.

Subject to the above qualifications, insofar as the Mishnah clarifies the specific application of scriptural principles without contradiction, or making additional (or indeed lesser) demands or building a “hedge around the law”, then they’re deemed valid by Matthew 23:1-3.

To find out more got to: judianity.info/pharisaic-…raditions.html
 
Hey Vouthron, very interesting thread. I think the problem occurs when a person assumes that there is no distinction between false tradition and Holy Tradition. For example, John 10:22 presents Jesus as promoting the extra-biblical tradition of Hanukah, which according to many non-catholics, should have been rejected by Jesus. Jesus and the Apostles made a definite distinction between false traditions and Holy Tradition but they never made any distinction between Scripture and Tradition.
Hey Joe 🙂

I agree! A very perceptive point my friend 🙂 In fact John chapter 10 is the FIRST MENTION OF THE CELEBRATION OF HANUKKAH IN HISTORY!!! Yes in the New Testament!
 
Every Christian follows certain extra-biblical oral traditions and rituals, treating them as though they are doctrines of Christ found in Scripture. For example:

Interpreting Scripture to say that there is no free will, (only predestination) - is an oral tradition, since Scripture also teaches free will. Interpreting Scripture to say that there are only two sacraments, (Baptism and Communion) - is derived from an extra-biblical tradition, since Scripture includes at least one more sacrament, (Unction) - as taught in James 5:14. Going to church or going to church on a set ritualistic time, such as every Sunday is an extra-biblical tradition…
Vouthon;8297204]There are some, particularly amidst our Evangelical brethren, who believe that Jesus repudiated the Jewish Oral Torah and rejected it. Usually this stems from the “sola scriptura” theology of some strands of Protestantism.
I believe that this view is false. I propose instead that in its essence, when seen in light of the New Testament and Jesus’ understanding of Oral Torah, much of the Oral Torah is divinely inspired Word of God…
 
Hey Joe 🙂

I agree! A very perceptive point my friend 🙂 In fact John chapter 10 is the FIRST MENTION OF THE CELEBRATION OF HANUKKAH IN HISTORY!!! Yes in the New Testament!
wow, i am learning a lot here. i guess i need to go get my Bible and read John chapter 10 because i have never heard of this before. thanks for all of the information.🙂
 
wow, i am learning a lot here. i guess i need to go get my Bible and read John chapter 10 because i have never heard of this before. thanks for all of the information.🙂
John 10:22, Feast of Dedication (Hanukkah)…
 
" 1 Corinthians 3:16 -Know you not, that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?"

I remember reading in a book about Qumran that they believed that the temple had become corrupted. In short, they did not go to the temple and they believed that their community was the embodiment of the temple. It sounds similar to the above saying from St.Paul.
 
Another point, Vouthon. The Sacraments of Judaism: circumcision–which, according to Deuteronomy 30 will become a “circumcision of the heart” in the Messianic Age when the Temple is rebuilt–the Feast of the Tabernacles, Passover, the Sabbath, and so on are explicitly expressed in the Written Law (Torah). But, in addition, there must be a CONTINUATION of the Written Law of Moses by means of a Sacred Tradition. IOW Sacred Tradition and Scripture are interwoven, not separate entities. That is, one generation passes the Written Law on to the next by means of commemoration of the Sabbath, the Passover Seder, the ritual of circumcision, the Feast of the Tabernacles, etc. None of these ceremonies is a one-time event, but rather a living, orthoprax, sacred tradition as defined by the Written Law.
 
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