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JimR-OCDS said:
Let’s say we watch the program before we judge it, or Brian Williams, eh?

Jim
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No need. I can smell it coming.

As for the whole “this isn’t about Obama” comment, yah, right. They do 1 hour pieces on various religions every week, right? Tell me when they’re going to be doing the big investigative full hour piece on the Zoroastrians. I’m curious about that one.

This has everything to do with the election. You’d better believe that if Jindal was running, it’d be a smear piece on Hinduism instead of Mormonism just because his parents were from India. That’s how the media works. Of course, Obama is immune to all this. He gives the news media tingles up their leggies.
 
iloveangels said:
No need. I can smell it coming.

As for the whole “this isn’t about Obama” comment, yah, right. They do 1 hour pieces on various religions every week, right? Tell me when they’re going to be doing the big investigative full hour piece on the Zoroastrians. I’m curious about that one.

This has everything to do with the election. You’d better believe that if Jindal was running, it’d be a smear piece on Hinduism instead of Mormonism just because his parents were from India. That’s how the media works. Of course, Obama is immune to all this. He gives the news media tingles up their leggies.
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The thread isn’t about Obama, it’s about the program on the Mormon Church.

I’m trying to keep the thread from being trashed with anti-Obama rhetoric, which the News forums have plenty of for those interested, to enjoy themselves with.

Jim
 
JimR-OCDS said:
Your post has nothing to do with the topic of the thread, The Mormon Church.

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I was helping to provide the information MJE was looking for.
Pres. Obama’s pastor for 20+ yrs, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright is anti Amereican, Anti semite,
& preaches a race-based theology. Obama described J. Wright as like family; they were close. But when Obama was questioned about the offensive preaching’s & teachings of his pastor (20 yrs attended this church & sat in the pews) Obama told the press he did not hear any of those sermons or teachings . . . he was not paying attention.
Nothing traditional in Wright’s interpretation of scripture
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I am looking for a link to the documentary done by the liberal old press on Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago & their famous pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Or is Mitt Romney’s non-traditional religion the only one scrutinized & held up for ridicule?
Mormon baiting?
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Can anyone deny Obama was deeply influenced by such a pastor for twenty years?
In his one hate speech, Wright condemned America so many times. And he is giving such hate speech repeatedly every time in the gathering. Can anyone deny the influence? Plus, Obama was brought up in Indonisia with Muslim background. We all know that. He said he is a muslim:youtube.com/watch?v=XE9mZCRX2mg
 
InLight247 said:
I was helping to provide the information MJE was looking for.

Can anyone deny Obama was deeply influenced by such a pastor for twenty years?
In his one hate speech, Wright condemned America so many times. And he is giving such hate speech repeatedly every time in the gathering. Can anyone deny the influence? Plus, Obama was brought up in Indonisia with Muslim background. We all know that. He said he is a muslim:youtube.com/watch?v=XE9mZCRX2mg
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Once again, take it to the News Forum.

This thread isn’t about Obama, whether fiction or fact. :rolleyes:

Jim
 
The thread appears to be about the fact that the news media just up and decided to do a huge public interest story on the Mormon Church, for some reason that they want us to believe is mysterious, apparently. But it’s not.

This item will be news WHEN the wacky news media decides to do Cameo pieces on all the other religions out there in American life too. Until then, I know why they’re doing it. And I’ll bet most people on this board know why they’re doing it too. Frankly, most of the people on this board aren’t so naive that they can’t tell.

We all know it’s NOT because the media is curious about religion or because they just LUUUUV religion.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
They said if varied and was up to the local bishop or something.

They in fact showed men receiving communion while the women sat and watched.

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I was Mormon for 30 years and never experienced a time where, as a woman, I could not receive communion. I did not watch the program, so I don’t know what happened, but I’d love to watch it if it’s online - do you have a link? Maybe it was some kind of priesthood thing? Only men hold the priesthood in the LDS church.

That being said, I hope that more shows come out showing more of the true beliefs and cultures about the LDS church while Romney is running. It could keep thousands and even millions of souls from being deceived by the lies told by the church. My worst fear about Romney becoming president is that people will see his lifestyle and strong family and say, “Wow, that looks like a good way to live, I think I’ll check out those Mormons.” And don’t think the Mormons aren’t ramping up their PR strategy for this happening.

It is very important that as many people as possible understand that Mormonism isn’t just “Family First” and strong morals and good church values. Souls are in jeopardy just from Romney running, and this saddens me greatly. Romney is not our savior from the horrible, evil Obama, he’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing. We’re going out of the frying pan into the oven with this candidate.

I encourage each of you to learn about what the LDS religion teaches now, and especially the very controversial teachings of the past, including no blacks in the priesthood until 1976, the history of Celestial Marriage (used as a premise for polygamy), and especially the history of their founder, Joseph Smith. I’m not trying to dissuade anyone for voting for Romney, but I am trying to save souls and to keep people from being deceived. I grew up Mormon and know the techniques used to lure the vulnerable into the Church, and the fear and guilt tactics used to keep them there. They have whitewashed their faith to the point where I barely recognize the religion I grew up in, and they’re going through the process of spit-shining it during this election to suck as many people in as possible. I beg of you - do not let yourselves be deceived.

Our Lady of Divine Providence, Pray for our souls, and for all the souls deceived by the lies of the LDS church. :signofcross:
 
HonoraDominum

You can watch the entire show here;

msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/48773816/#48773816

I’m looking forward to your comments on the program. I have a suspicion that they did as poor of a job explaining Mormonism as they would if they were doing a program on the Catholic Church.

BTW, my wife and myself had good friends who converted to the Mormon Religion. After they began their conversion, their relationship with us ceased. We have had some contact on occasion with the wife, who wasn’t thrilled about converting, but did so because her husband, a former non practicing Catholic wanted to convert and she wanted to be in the same religion as her husband and to raise their children in it, which they did.

Is it common practice for Mormons not to associate with non-Mormons on a friendship level?

My wife and myself were hurt after they stopped wanting to get together with us, for we were close before their conversion.

Thanks in Advance
Jim
 
JimR-OCDS said:
HonoraDominum

You can watch the entire show here;

msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/48773816/#48773816

I’m looking forward to your comments on the program. I have a suspicion that they did as poor of a job explaining Mormonism as they would if they were doing a program on the Catholic Church.

BTW, my wife and myself had good friends who converted to the Mormon Religion. After they began their conversion, their relationship with us ceased. We have had some contact on occasion with the wife, who wasn’t thrilled about converting, but did so because her husband, a former non practicing Catholic wanted to convert and she wanted to be in the same religion as her husband and to raise their children in it, which they did.

Is it common practice for Mormons not to associate with non-Mormons on a friendship level?

My wife and myself were hurt after they stopped wanting to get together with us, for we were close before their conversion.

Thanks in Advance
Jim
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Okay, just got done watching the show. I think that the show was a very, very whitewashed version of the church, but I didn’t see anything that was incorrect. As far as the sacrament (bread and water commemoration of the Last Supper), males, boys and men, hold the Priesthood and only they can bless and distribute the sacrament. That is what was shown in the program - young boys distributing the trays of bread and water that gets distributed at every sacrament meeting by passing down the rows, similar to how Catholics pass the collection basket. Both men and women, however, can receive the sacrament. Young boys traditionally bless and distribute the sacrament (under the authority of the lower Aaronic priesthood), while men hold callings and have powers to do things such as bless and anoint with oil as receivers of a higher priesthood (Melkeizedek).

As far as your friendship with the Mormon convert, your experience is very common. Mormons, especially new Mormons, can easily get swept into the culture and are encouraged not to spend time with non-believers. The phrase “in the world, not of the world” gets talked about constantly. However, this isn’t just a Mormon phenomenon - I know that when I started going to Daily Mass, there was a huge shift in how I viewed the world, and I found it harder and harder to spend time with friends from my “Past life”.
 
I have removed several posts from this thread. Please stay on topic.

Klara
 
gh4 said:
Why do you say that?

From what I’ve read, he was very active in leadership positions etc. in his church.
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MJE was doing a parody of the Obama / Jeremiah Wright stuff where Obama allegedly went to church for all those years yet insisted he never heard any of the ideas Jeremiah routinely speaks on.

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JimR-OCDS said:
She walked out of the Bishop’s office and out of the Mormon Church. She married the young man and converted to his religion, the Episcopal Church.
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Did they mention the polygamous history of Mormons during the show ?

I wonder because the Episcopals, per Schori’s comments last year, now allow polygamous members in Africa etc. as do a few other protestant sects ( Lutherans, Seventh Day Adventists to name a couple more ). Just curious if they are even handed on the past polygamy or if they are simply trying to trash mormons ( and Mitt ).
 
bitznbitez said:
Did they mention the polygamous history of Mormons during the show ?

I wonder because the Episcopals, per Schori’s comments last year, now allow polygamous members in Africa etc. as do a few other protestant sects ( Lutherans, Seventh Day Adventists to name a couple more ). Just curious if they are even handed on the past polygamy or if they are simply trying to trash mormons ( and Mitt ).
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They did, but basically they said that polygamy is in our history, we can’t deny it. We believed it as coming from God. And then God said it was not needed anymore, or something, I’d have to rewatch it - it’s in the Mormon 101 segment. Again, whitewashed, but not untrue.

It was not a Mormon-bashing show at all. Quite the contrary, it was a huge, warm-fuzzy PR piece for the church, and for Mitt.
 
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