The National Shrine of The Immaculate Conception

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I just got to visit this place today and was blown away. I could have spent much more time there, but didn’t HAVE the time. I am blessed that I was able to see such a wonderful place.

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I watched it being built as I was growing up and it’s still being added to. All built by donations. It’s really worthwhile taking one of the free guided tours. Some of the tour guides know a lot about the history of the various apparitions and chapels. I love the chapel to Our Lady of Guadalupe. But the Irish chapel which is to the left of the main entrance doors to the upper church is the most peaceful place to sit a while. And there are confessions on the lower level every day. There’s even a cafeteria and two book store/gift shops. Since the church closes at about 6 pm, get there early.
 
The Crypt church (the lower level) is my favorite. I used to go to Mass there at 12pm regularly when I lived in D.C.

My second favorite part is the Revelations 12 scene to the left of the giant mosaic of Jesus as Judge of mankind.

Someone said it will take another 100 years until they are totally done with it. There is certainly a lot of work yet to do!

I also heard it’s the 7th largest church in the world.
 
The Crypt church (the lower level) is my favorite. I used to go to Mass there at 12pm regularly when I lived in D.C.

My second favorite part is the Revelations 12 scene to the left of the giant mosaic of Jesus as Judge of mankind.

Someone said it will take another 100 years until they are totally done with it. There is certainly a lot of work yet to do!

I also heard it’s the 7th largest church in the world.
It is also the largest Catholic church in the western hemisphere!

I live not too far from the Basilica, and absolutely love it. I have toured all over Europe, but this is still one of the most beautiful churches in the world.
 
I have a little story about the basilica. I have been there several times, usually a part of our diocesan choir when on pilgrimage (it is amazing to sing from the loft but we also sang in the sanctuary). Anyway, while I recognized the artistic beauty of the mosaic of Christ in Majesty on the back wall, I always found it very disturbing and not the Christ that I knew. He looked mean and angry and I felt like he was condemning all those in the church.

Move forward a few years. I was taking a grad course in art and theology and had to write a research paper on a piece of religious art. Since I was an art major as an undergrad I had a lot of experience writing about art, but this was different. I had to look at the spiritual and theological basis of the work. I loved the old Byzantine mosaics, especially the Pantocrator or Christ in Majesty. So I really should like the one in the basilica in DC, but I didn’t. So I decided to use it as the topic of my paper, basically with the aim of showing how a poor representation of the subject it was. I researched the medium, the subject, the artist and the scripture verse that motivated the artist. Then I further researched the passage. What I found was that the image of Jesus was not what I thought it was based on scripture. It was not Christ judging those in the basilica, but those outside who were a threat against those in the basilica. His piercing and angry stare was directed at them that would destroy His people. Now when I see the mosaic I love it. It goes a bit deeper than that, and I concluded that it also made a political statement, but that was my opinion, which the prof. said was an interesting conclusion that was worth exploring.
 
I further researched the passage. What I found was that the image of Jesus was not what I thought it was based on scripture. It was not Christ judging those in the basilica, but those outside who were a threat against those in the basilica. His piercing and angry stare was directed at them that would destroy His people. Now when I see the mosaic I love it. It goes a bit deeper than that, and I concluded that it also made a political statement, but that was my opinion, which the prof. said was an interesting conclusion that was worth exploring.
What sort of political statement? One about the Catholic Church or about American Society? I have heard it said in a documentary, i believe, that that image is a very “American” image of Christ, and that the image represnted how America thought of itself at the time? I thought it was a very interesting statement; did your research have anything to do with that?
 
I would be curious as to what the artists intended it (the HUGE Jesus mosaic on the back ceiling). I have been there, and it is a gorgeous church, but that mosaic bothered me too. It really looked like a blond, blue-eyed, Hulk Hogan Jesus in an orange Tibetan monk’s habit.
 
What sort of political statement? One about the Catholic Church or about American Society? I have heard it said in a documentary, i believe, that that image is a very “American” image of Christ, and that the image repreesnted how America thought of itself at the time? I thought it was a very interesting statement; did your research have anything to do with that?
As a matter of fact it did. The image of Christ is very American. The features are not traditional to icons of the Pantocrator. Also look how muscular He is. The color of the robes also does not fit the tradition and he is not wearing an under robe, which also is not traditional. Also, the artist was from Poland during WW II. We here in USA were dealing with the Cold War and the scripture passages were about destroying enemies of God. The red robe, in my opinion, based on the scripture passage, is the blood of the enemies. I am in a rush right now and will be away all week or I would find the passage. I know part of it is the passage on which the Battle Hymn of the Republic is based.
 
What sort of political statement? One about the Catholic Church or about American Society? I have heard it said in a documentary, i believe, that that image is a very “American” image of Christ, and that the image repreesnted how America thought of itself at the time? I thought it was a very interesting statement; did your research have anything to do with that?
As a matter of fact it did. The image of Christ is very American. The features are not traditional to icons of the Pantocrator. Also look how muscular He is. The color of the robes also does not fit the tradition and he is not wearing an under robe, which also is not traditional. Also, the artist was from Poland during WW II. We here in USA were dealing with the Cold War and the scripture passages were about destroying enemies of God. The red robe, in my opinion, based on the scripture passage, is the blood of the enemies. I am in a rush right now and will be away all week or I would find the passage. I know part of it is the passage on which the Battle Hymn of the Republic is based.
 
I would be curious as to what the artists intended it (the HUGE Jesus mosaic on the back ceiling). I have been there, and it is a gorgeous church, but that mosaic bothered me too. It really looked like a blond, blue-eyed, Hulk Hogan Jesus in an orange Tibetan monk’s habit.
I think it was a great idea to have a large mosaic of Christ in Majesty, but I would have much preferred a traditional, more Middle Eastern-looking Christ than that thing in the Basilica which looks more like some sort of Nordic god.

They have a gorgeous and imposing altar under a baldacchino…I don’t know why they have to pull out a Cranmer table for all of their Masses when they could use the altar. The nave of the upper church and the crypt are surrounded by scores of small chapels–most of them dedicated to Our Lady. Some of the chapels are a bit…er…hokey.
 
They have a gorgeous and imposing altar under a baldacchino…I don’t know why they have to pull out a Cranmer table for all of their Masses when they could use the altar. The nave of the upper church and the crypt are surrounded by scores of small chapels–most of them dedicated to Our Lady. Some of the chapels are a bit…er…hokey.
Which ones do you think look ‘hokey’? I’ve seen them all and can’t really think of one i didn’t like. I think the Basilica is, in general, the perfect, ideal mix of modern and traditional
 
Which ones do you think look ‘hokey’? I’ve seen them all and can’t really think of one i didn’t like. I think the Basilica is, in general, the perfect, ideal mix of modern and traditional
A couple around the edge of the crypt church stand out in my memory…and yes, it IS a mix of modernist and traditional…much like filling new wine skins with old wine, eh?
 
A couple around the edge of the crypt church stand out in my memory…and yes, it IS a mix of modernist and traditional…much like filling new wine skins with old wine, eh?
No, modern, not modernist.

I wouldnt say the Basilica is ‘modernist’ any more than it is ‘modernist’ for the Pope to use high definition TVs in St. Peter’s Square or anything such as that.

it would help if you could come up with the names and pictures of any shrines in the Basilica you feel are “modernist”
 
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I am a DC-area native and am very familiar with the Nat’l Shrine of the Immaculate Conception.

The architecture is an unusual Romanesque style, different from so many churches here and abroad. The interior does have a distinctive 50s and 60s flavor, mixed with other eras.

The mosaic of Jesus is a very striking figure. I’ve always liked it because of the no-nonsense posture of Jesus the Judge. Thank you for sharing what you found in your research! I never knew this.

What a great way to describe Jesus the Judge: if you are not an enemy of the Faith, then you have nothing to fear. Likewise, at the Last Judgment, if you have persevered in goodness, you will have nothing to fear.
 
I know–it looks beautiful! I especially want to see the big Christ in Majesty wall. I would love to be able to see it and I asked if we could for Christmas, but no go. I’ll make it there someday, though!
 
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