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Let’s just assume that God is powerful enough to end all suffering for innocent children. We observe that it has not ended. Some say that it is justice that none of these children should suffer. Reason being they have no sin. Some say that only sinners should justifiably suffer.
Now, we do observe that it has not ended. We believe God is justified to leave the world as it is. So it must be justified that innocent children can and do suffer. But they have done no wrong. So it must be justified for some reason other than whether an individual person has sin. Jesus also suffered. Things function in our universe under the laws of physics. We believe it must be justifiable to create a universe that functions according to physical laws. These laws function the same way no matter a person’s moral orientation.
Why does Jesus say to be like his Father who sends the rain on the just and the unjust alike. He is speaking about loving your enemy. Does not suffering fall on the just and the unjust alike as well? Is that God’s doing as well? We know that the sun will rise and the rain will fall according to the physical dynamics and laws of the universe. God has designed the universe so that good will befall us all. The first observable good to the individual is life. Suffering and death also befall us. Not by divine intervention against individual persons but because the universe operates on a set of rules. We believe that these rules are justified.
Accidents do happen. If all things were by divine design there would be no accidents. An accident would be an unknown concept from practice. It would be fictional. A strange thought. The concept that there could be a world that operates under physical laws that do not discriminate based on favoritism would be unknowable in practice. The concept that a human being cannot manipulate his universe and fate by acting more or less in accordance with God would be unknown. There would be nothing aside from God.
The world, as it is, operates independently of God’s judgement about a person’s morality. There is good and evil. Pleasure and pain. Suffering and relief. Grief and consolations.The universe is a shaping force upon the mind of mankind. The Almighty has created the universe and created a species such as us and we know what we know because of what he has created around us. If the universe were different, we would be different.
It is written that once upon a time, mankind was in harmony with God. In that time, what was known was Eden. The paradise. That is the story that was passed down and recorded in the bible. The world changed when mankind diverged from paradise in harmony with God. The universe is the way it is today because that’s what it needs to be. That’s what i think might be true.
It runs independent of particular judgments about people for a reason. Jesus uses natural occurrences to illustrate God’s love for both friend and enemy. Mankind has received a non-judgmental universe that can be kind or unkind but never because it hates or loves you. It just is. That is his gift to fallen mankind. Why?
Now, we do observe that it has not ended. We believe God is justified to leave the world as it is. So it must be justified that innocent children can and do suffer. But they have done no wrong. So it must be justified for some reason other than whether an individual person has sin. Jesus also suffered. Things function in our universe under the laws of physics. We believe it must be justifiable to create a universe that functions according to physical laws. These laws function the same way no matter a person’s moral orientation.
Why does Jesus say to be like his Father who sends the rain on the just and the unjust alike. He is speaking about loving your enemy. Does not suffering fall on the just and the unjust alike as well? Is that God’s doing as well? We know that the sun will rise and the rain will fall according to the physical dynamics and laws of the universe. God has designed the universe so that good will befall us all. The first observable good to the individual is life. Suffering and death also befall us. Not by divine intervention against individual persons but because the universe operates on a set of rules. We believe that these rules are justified.
Accidents do happen. If all things were by divine design there would be no accidents. An accident would be an unknown concept from practice. It would be fictional. A strange thought. The concept that there could be a world that operates under physical laws that do not discriminate based on favoritism would be unknowable in practice. The concept that a human being cannot manipulate his universe and fate by acting more or less in accordance with God would be unknown. There would be nothing aside from God.
The world, as it is, operates independently of God’s judgement about a person’s morality. There is good and evil. Pleasure and pain. Suffering and relief. Grief and consolations.The universe is a shaping force upon the mind of mankind. The Almighty has created the universe and created a species such as us and we know what we know because of what he has created around us. If the universe were different, we would be different.
It is written that once upon a time, mankind was in harmony with God. In that time, what was known was Eden. The paradise. That is the story that was passed down and recorded in the bible. The world changed when mankind diverged from paradise in harmony with God. The universe is the way it is today because that’s what it needs to be. That’s what i think might be true.
It runs independent of particular judgments about people for a reason. Jesus uses natural occurrences to illustrate God’s love for both friend and enemy. Mankind has received a non-judgmental universe that can be kind or unkind but never because it hates or loves you. It just is. That is his gift to fallen mankind. Why?
