the pope (not pope Francis in particular)- wwyd if?

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jmcrae said:
Outside of his duties as Pope, he retains his free will and he can choose to do bad things. The bad things he does can’t harm the Church, but they can harm himself and individual other people, just like when you or I commit sin.

Being Pope means that he is prevented from teaching incorrectly, and from doing anything that would do permanent harm to the Church, but he is not protected from committing personal sin on his own time.

We once had a Pope who went out to bars and got into fights. We had another Pope who didn’t keep his vow of chastity and had a child out of wedlock.

Neither of these Popes ever taught anything contrary to the Catholic faith, and both of them had to go to Confession for their sins just like everyone else.
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One child? Alexander VI had at least 5 to two different women, was said to have poisoned his political rivals and much worse (although a fair bit of that ‘worse’ is unsubstantiated rumour and myth).
 
LilyM said:
One child? Alexander VI had at least 5 to two different women, was said to have poisoned his political rivals and much worse (although a fair bit of that ‘worse’ is unsubstantiated rumour and myth).
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I’m not sure of the age of the OP, so I wanted to be circumspect, and not get into too much detail. 🙂
 
jmcrae said:
I’m not sure of the age of the OP, so I wanted to be circumspect, and not get into too much detail. 🙂
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Child v children doesn’t make a lot of difference AFAICS, and it all gets dragged up often enough anyway.

If anything it makes the point clearer - I mean you’d think it would be the easiest thing in the world for a womanising Pope to declare that sex outside of marriage is no sin, or your brawling barfighting Pope to declare that drunkenness was not a sin, yet thanks to the protective power of the Spirit none has ever even, it seems, considered doing so.

To me that is almost greater proof of the Church’s divine institution than anything else.
 
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