The Pope's Letter

[agr4028]

This morning, we were read a letter to the Catholics of the United States by Pope Benedict XVI.

It was in reference to his coming visit to the US.

It was full of love and ecumenical commentary.

It contained NOTHING of reverting to liturgies or norms of the past.

As I left Church, I couldn’t help but wonder if some of the previous commentary about making the TLM available, and other similar topics, haven’t been somewhat exaggerated in the past months?

 

[brotherhrolf]

This morning, we were read a letter to the Catholics of the United States by Pope Benedict XVI.

It was in reference to his coming visit to the US.

It was full of love and ecumenical commentary.

It contained NOTHING of reverting to liturgies or norms of the past.

As I left Church, I couldn’t help but wonder if some of the previous commentary about making the TLM available, and other similar topics, haven’t been somewhat exaggerated in the past months?

The HF’s visit to the US is a pastoral visit. The MP applies to the universal church. But, if you go over to the Liturgy and Sacraments forum you will find a thread regarding the missal to be used for his visit. And if you peruse that missal, you will note that the Kyrie, Gloria, Creed, Sanctus, Pater Noster, and Agnus Dei in addition to the Apostolic Blessing etc are all in their original Latin texts. This was not what was done with JPII’s visits. Sometimes not saying something outright says more.

 

[agr4028]

The HF’s visit to the US is a pastoral visit. The MP applies to the universal church. But, if you go over to the Liturgy and Sacraments forum you will find a thread regarding the missal to be used for his visit. And if you peruse that missal, you will note that the Kyrie, Gloria, Creed, Sanctus, Pater Noster, and Agnus Dei in addition to the Apostolic Blessing etc are all in their original Latin texts. This was not what was done with JPII’s visits. Sometimes not saying something outright says more.

And if you read the same thread, you’ll also see plenty of whining that he’s using EP3, and “modern” music.

He was also VERY ecumenical, probably much to the dismay to the “if you ain’t 100% Practical Traditional Catholic yer goin’ to hell” group…

I don’t think he’s playin’ favorites, either way.

 

[brotherhrolf]

And if you read the same thread, you’ll also see plenty of whining that he’s using EP3, and “modern” music.

He was also VERY ecumenical, probably much to the dismay to the “if you ain’t 100% Practical Traditional Catholic yer goin’ to hell” group…

I don’t think he’s playin’ favorites, either way.

I’m not one of the whiners and my father wasn’t Catholic and I was raised before Vatican II and know all too well what it means to worry about whether or not your father was going to hell. Stereotyping people is just plain uncharitable.

 

[Conservative]

This morning, we were read a letter to the Catholics of the United States by Pope Benedict XVI.

It was in reference to his coming visit to the US.

It was full of love and ecumenical commentary.

It contained NOTHING of reverting to liturgies or norms of the past.

As I left Church, I couldn’t help but wonder if some of the previous commentary about making the TLM available, and other similar topics, haven’t been somewhat exaggerated in the past months?

That was my thought in posting a thread a week or so ago - where I noted the Pope’s announced visit to a Synagogue in New York in light of Passover. I realize his diplomacy and the trip coinciding with a Jewish holiday that so often (though not this year) coincides with our own Holy Week. But I questioned why if this was possible, then why - in light of Moto Proprio - he hadn’t scheduled something at a traditional parish to underscore his recent decree. Reading some of the liturgies in Latin will be nice - but a visit to a Traditional parish - would be definitive.

 

[ProVobis]

It contained NOTHING of reverting to liturgies or norms of the past.

And you expected what? A big press release announcing that he would say an Italian Mass ad orientem? Or did you fear he would actually sneak in some Latin in the Novus Ordo?

As I left Church, I couldn’t help but wonder if some of the previous commentary about making the TLM available, and other similar topics, haven’t been somewhat exaggerated in the past months?

And you started a whole thread on your fears about the TLM? I guess all of Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger’s writings mean nothing?

Hey, relax, he will say Novus Ordo Masses at baseball stadiums -]between innings/-], speak with the President, and maybe address the ever-growing Spanish communities.

But I said, maybe.

Let’s all enjoy his visit, no matter what. After all he is our Pope.

 

[Deacon_Ed_B]

This morning, we were read a letter to the Catholics of the United States by Pope Benedict XVI.

It was in reference to his coming visit to the US.

It was full of love and ecumenical commentary.

It contained NOTHING of reverting to liturgies or norms of the past.

As I left Church, I couldn’t help but wonder if some of the previous commentary about making the TLM available, and other similar topics, haven’t been somewhat exaggerated in the past months?

Are you just now figuring that out??? Or are you speaking tongue in cheek??
Prayers & Blessings
Deacon Ed B

 

[CB_Catholic]

That was my thought in posting a thread a week or so ago - where I noted the Pope’s announced visit to a Synagogue in New York in light of Passover. I realize his diplomacy and the trip coinciding with a Jewish holiday that so often (though not this year) coincides with our own Holy Week. But I questioned why if this was possible, then why - in light of Moto Proprio - he hadn’t scheduled something at a traditional parish to underscore his recent decree. Reading some of the liturgies in Latin will be nice - but a visit to a Traditional parish - would be definitive.

The Pope is coming to proclaim “Christ Our Hope” to the American people (and to the rest of the world). It’s an Apostolic Visit. I don’t think his purpose is to make any definiitive statements on the Moto Propio or anything of that nature. He can do that from Rome. He will be speaking to a much broader audience with a much broader message than that.

We all have areas we would like to see addressed, but we have to be careful not to put our agendas on the Pope. He has his own agenda. Otherwise we will be very disappointed when he doesn’t address our particular areas, and that will result in a lot of criticism of him. Heck that’s already started, and he hasn’t even BEEN here yet.

I am sure the Pope has prayed fervently about this visit, and is going to say and do the things he feels the Lord wants him to say and do. He is going to be led by the Holy Spirit, not us. We need to listen to him with an open and loving spirit as our spiritual leader, and not wish he’d say or do certain things we’d like to see. It might not be what the Lord wants him to do.