The Rise of 'High Christology'

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Come to think of it, the synoptic gospels are often presented as having a “low Christology” when compared to the higher Christology of John’s gospel, but in fact, even in the synoptics you actually have a high view of Jesus. While there are no long theological discourses as in John, Matthew, Mark and Luke do clearly associate Jesus with God (showing Him as being endowed with God’s Spirit; His teaching and miracles manifesting the power of God) and binds His identity with the God of Israel. In other words, perhaps we shouldn’t be pitting the supposed ‘low Christology’ of the synoptics vs. the ‘high Christology’ of John at all. John’s gospel, for that matter, has a curious mix of ‘high’ and ‘low’ Christology: John’s Jesus is the Jesus who speaks about Himself as being one with the Father, but also the Jesus who runs away and hides when His audience tries to stone Him.
EXACTLY! How can we not accept the one and the same … the low and high christologies are more about the reality of Jesus and how we relate to that reality. I am much more drawn to the human aspects of Jesus cause, to be honest, I haven’t gone to heaven (or hell for that matter 🙂 and don’t really know the fullness of Our Lord, so simple things keep me busy…how does one truly meet the divine on the divine’s terms?

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The apostles witness the miracles performed by Jesus–they see Him walk on water and calm the sea–they see Him raise people from the dead–they see Him raised from the dead and with a glorified body–and James and Peter and John see Him transfigured with Moses and Elijah–why wouldn’t they–regardless of their Judaism think of Jesus as God when He Himself said I and the Father are one?

How early does does their belief in Jesus as God have to be to constitute early High Christology?

There is only one Christology–Jesus is God. When did the disciples first believe that? I don’t know but I do know that Peter said “Thou art the Christ the Son of the living God”. Is that early enough? Is that high enough?
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On Matthew writing first, a German scientist, Carsten Peter Thiede, director of the Institute for Basic Epistemological Research in Paderborn, with Matthew D’Ancona, is about to dash to pieces the Bultmann-built edifice of modernist exegesis.

Their book, *Eyewitness To Jesus: Amazing New Manuscript Evidence About the Origin of the Gospel *(Doubleday, 1996), is about a small piece of papyrus held at Magdalen College, Oxford, which is the oldest fragment of St. Matthew’s Gospel in existence today.

The fragment contains disjointed segments of Matt. 26, but even more important than the writing style, which Thiede p(name removed by moderator)ointed to the time of Jesus’ life, is the use of KS, an abbreviated form of Kyrios, to refer to Jesus as Lord God — meaning that the ancient author believed that Jesus is divine.

Thiede, a papyrologist, furthermore concludes that St. Matthew’s Gospel must have been the first Gospel written. The implications of this are enormous. As Thiede and D’Ancona write in their book:

“Bultmann was wrong: The authors of the Gospel could hear far more than the faintest whisper of Jesus’ voice. Indeed, the first readers of St. Matthew may have heard the very words which the Nazarene preacher spoke during his ministry, may have listened to the parables when they were first delivered to the peasant crowd; may even have asked the wise man questions and waited respectfully for answers. The voice they heard was not a whisper but the passionate oratory of a real man of humble origins whose teaching would change the world.”

In 1982, Dom Bernard Orchard, O.S.B., alerted Catholics to the dangers of false Catholic scholarship, as English scholar John Beaumont has recalled in an article (“Kulturkampf and the Gospel”) in “Culture Wars”, Dec 1996:

"Since 1946, the majority of Catholic professors of the New Testament have given their support to the hypothesis of the priority of the Gospel of St. Mark, on grounds . . . of internal evidence alone.

“In practice, this has meant that they deny that the Apostle St. Matthew could have published his own Gospel; and this, in turn, amounts to saying that all the Church Fathers and early Councils erred on a matter of fact in saying St. Matthew wrote his own Gospel. In other words, the modern biblical ‘authorities’ are committed to denying that the Church has accurately transmitted the true tradition regarding the authorship of the Gospels.”

It is generally accepted by scholars that Luke and Matthew used the works of Mark and Q as sources for their gospels. Likewise, it is generally accepted that all three gospels were written originally in Greek, with the possibility of Aramaic as well. The authors of the book Understanding the Difficult Words of Jesus, in their research, show that those positions may not be right.

Bivin and Blizzard relate research by Dr. Robert L. Lindsey as to the history of the synoptic gospels. Within five years after the death of Jesus, a biographer (believed to be Matthew) recorded the story of Jesus in Hebrew. At once, there was a demand in the Greek-speaking churches for a translation of the biography into Greek. A very literal translation was made. A few years later, stories and parts of stories were removed and arranged topically. Shortly after, a Greek author tried to reconstruct the story. Luke used the latter two of these records as his sources. Mark used Luke’s work and the topically-arranged Greek as his sources. Matthew used Mark’s work and the topically-arranged Greek as his sources. The current gospel may have been written by someone other than the Matthew who is believed to have written the original biography.

Thus, if this is correct, the original writing was composed in Hebrew, not Greek, or even Aramaic. The authors, throughout their book, present evidence to support their position. Statistics are quoted to show that over 90% of the Bible, including Old Testament quotes in the New Testament, was written in Hebrew, with about 1% in Aramaic, and the rest in Greek. If Bivin and Blizzard are right, there needs to be a change in thinking about the origin of the synoptic gospels and the resultant translations. They quote from Eusebius in Ecclesiastical History, giving evidence that it was known in his day that Matthew wrote his Gospel in Hebrew. Eusebius himself had quoted other writers, Papias (Book III, Chapter 39, page 127), Irenæus (Book V, Chapter 8, page 187), Origen (Book VI, Chapter 25, page 245), and Eusebius himself (Book III, Chapter 24, page 108).
tyndale.cam.ac.uk/scriptures/www.innvista.com/scriptures/compare/gospels.htm
 
One of the dilemmas historical Jesus/Christian origins scholars face is to explain the rise of high Christology - in other words, the exalted view of Jesus as being divine. After all, Judaism is strictly monotheistic - so just when and how did the early Christians manage to get around that and arrive at the belief that Jesus was divine and equally deserving of the honors due to God, without compromising the belief in only one God?

There are really two camps: on the one side, you have scholars advocating for a late origin of the idea of Jesus being divine (the “late high Christology” camp), and on the other hand, scholars who argue that high Christology erupted fairly early into Christian history (the “early high Christology” camp).

To be honest, the “late high Christology” had more or less predominated the field until fairly recently. To sum, most scholars then simply had a hard time trying to square the belief in Jesus as divine with the Jewish origins of Christianity. Since they thought that the belief in only one God would have prevented the Jewish followers of Jesus from contemplating Him as being equal to God, they usually proposed that high Christology came from a Diaspora context and influenced by pagan, Greco-Roman thinking (where there were no problems in believing in ‘divine men’ and divinized heroes). In other words, a clear divide is made between the ‘Palestinian’ followers of Jesus, who saw Him as a messianic ‘son of man’ figure but not necessarily divine, and the ‘Hellenistic’ Christian communities, who saw Jesus as divine. Some scholars named St. Paul (here believed to have been immersed in Hellenistic/Diaspora Jewish thinking) as the progenitor/developer of high Christology, though others would even deny that Paul exhibited a belief in true high Christology himself (usually going to lengths as interpreting the christological passages in his letters, for example, Philippians 2, as exhibiting a form of ‘not-quite-so-high’ Christology or even saying that they were later interpolations!) and instead propose that it gradually emerged afterwards, well into the second to the fourth centuries.

Scholars who belong(ed) in the late high Christology camp, each having their own distinct theories, include Wilhelm Bousset (who argued in his seminal 1913 work Kyrios Christos that high Christology had its origins in the gentile Christian communities like Antioch, and that Paul picked it up from there), Geza Vermes (who argued for a very late, 4th century origin of true high Christology), Maurice Casey (who p(name removed by moderator)ointed the origins of high Christology among Johannine Christians in the late 1st-early 2nd century, ascribing the shift to a slackening of commitment to and understanding of the constraints of Jewish monotheism), and James D.G. Dunn (who proposed that Paul was instead exhibiting an ‘Adamic Christology’ in Philippians 2).

More recently, however, there have been a growing body of scholars who proposed the opposite: high Christology could very well have emerged early (from the very first generations of Christians), from a Jewish context: Jewish monotheism might not have been a hurdle in the rise of high Christology as other scholars thought it was. One of the first scholars to propose this was Martin Hengel, who argued for “an explosive development” of high Christology over the first few decades. Soon, other academics picked up on the idea and traced the origins of high Christology in the context of known contemporary Jewish thinking (for example, Jewish messianic/royal traditions, the imagery of the ‘enthroned’ Jesus = the merkavah/chariot imagery in Ezekiel, the idea of Jesus being exalted that He has become a valid co-recipient of the devotion due to God, etc.) Aside from Hengel, scholars in the ‘early high Christology’ camp include Larry Hurtado (Lord Jesus Christ: Devotion to Jesus in Earliest Christianity), Timo Eskola (Messiah and the Throne), Richard Bauckham, among others.
Paul’s letters that were writen before Mark, Luke and Matthew, have a higher Christology than the gospels. So high Christology came before low Christology
 
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During the 19th-20th century, many German scholars and theologians were concerned to create a version of Christianity that their exponents deemed compatible with ‘modernity’ (i.e. rational, without all those trappings of ‘superstition’), and particularly suitable for the enhancement of the German people and nation.
I agree that this is the crux of what happened.

Our increase in knowledge of the material world created the wish to see the world as only material, This seemed to colour the study of Theology with all the fervour of new movements and was disastrous for Christianity.

I think you also hint at this new movement laying the foundation for the loss of faith in Germany and ultimately the rise of the Nazis. I certainly see it that way.

So, are we starting to move past that mistake in academia these days ? I would like to think the world has turned as I received the non-supernatural version of ‘Theology’ when I was at uni. I thought it was intellectually forced and without merit.
 
I agree that this is the crux of what happened.

Our increase in knowledge of the material world created the wish to see the world as only material, This seemed to colour the study of Theology with all the fervour of new movements and was disastrous for Christianity.

I think you also hint at this new movement laying the foundation for the loss of faith in Germany and ultimately the rise of the Nazis. I certainly see it that way.

So, are we starting to move past that mistake in academia these days ? I would like to think the world has turned as I received the non-supernatural version of ‘Theology’ when I was at uni. I thought it was intellectually forced and without merit.
For some reason, try as I might to keep away I find myself coming back to these forums. In a sense, yes. This Germanocentric ‘national’ Christianity and disdain for Judaism did in a way paved the way for Nazism.

Oh, and Abu: you’ve also talked about Thiede in a past thread, IIRC. I’m gonna keep things short, but to sum, his arguments for the Magdalen papyrus (conventionally dated to the late 2nd century) actually being from the 1st century is unconvincing - one reason being that despite his claims, the style of writing in those fragments don’t really match how letters were written in genuine 1st century papyri. As the author of this article concludes: “The very early manuscripts to which Thiede appealed for close parallels to P64 turned out to be not as close as the somewhat later ones which he had overlooked.”
 
What a fascinating topic and one I’ve not explored yet, thanks! This thread has been a good launching point for me to explore further.
 
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