The Roman Mystery religion of Mithra -purely evil and Masonic in nature

[TEPO]

With respect to the story about the Pharaoh sinking the ships, I will be forthcoming and say I had no knowledge of this account prior to your mentioning it. My first reaction is to assume there is probably some embellishment in the records, but if the Pharaoh did manage to win a naval battle through the use of divine power, I would not be the least bit surprised. Ancient Egypt was one of the most important places in the ancient world for the practice of the Mysteries (that’s what the pyramids were for), and it is almost common knowledge that the Pharaoh would be at least an Initiate, if not a Master of the Mysteries. There are many similar accounts of Moses and Joshua using divine power to influence the outcome of battles (Exodus 17, Joshua 10, to name a few). These stories may be largely symbolic, but they reflect the same archetype, and may be based, at least loosely, on historical events.

By the way, I would be interested in reading that article about the Pharaoh if you don’t mind telling me where you read it…

reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/religion/magic.htm
“Whenever he was threatened with invasion by sea or by land he succeeded in destroying the power of his enemies, and in driving them from his coasts or frontiers; and this he did by the following means. If the enemy came against him by sea, instead of sending out his sailors to fight them, he retired into a certain chamber, and having brought forth a bowl which he kept for the purpose, he filled it with water, and then, having made wax figures of the ships and men of the enemy, and also of his own men and ships, he set them upon the water in the bowl, his men on one side, and those of the enemy on the other.
He then came out, and having put on the cloak of an Egyptian prophet and taken an ebony rod in his hand, he returned into the chamber, and uttering words of power he invoked the gods who help men to work magic, and the winds, and the subterranean demons, which straightway came to his aid. By their means the figures of the men in wax sprang into life and began to fight, and the ships of wax began to move about likewise; but the figures which represented his own men vanquished those which represented the enemy, and as the figures of the ships and men of the hostile fleet sank through the water to the bottom of the bowl, even so did the real ships and men sink through the waters to the bottom of the sea.
In this way he succeeded in maintaining his power, and he continued to occupy his kingdom in peace for a considerable period.”

…This “historical” article was originally written in Latin, I believe by the Greek historian Callisthenes, in the early 4th century.

 

[TEPO]

I will publicly admit though, that the concept of plays and secrecy do make much more sense now than they did prior to creating this thread.

In a way, I think the Egyptians had a clear concept that as the sun projects ‘light’ into the elements of the earth, it is also part of the ‘physical’ manifestation of Gods love, which brings all things to life… Whether the Egyptians actually worshipped the sun as a religious concept or whether they acknowledged it in a philosophical light makes little difference to us today. Today we have the fullness of truth, which explains that the sun is in fact a tool that God uses.

With the concept of plays, like the sun, we are able to project our light onto the world -which we recieve from God. Though now, we’ve advanced further with modern tools such as television and the Internet, we can now channel Gods illuminating light more fully… But as the concepts if secrecy and protection also have historically kept these powers from those who are not yet ready (swines and dogs), we must also be aware of those today who are using current methods for other reasons… We as Catholics, should be conscious of what is good through the teachings of the Church, that way we can use our own free will to pick and choose our influences, as well as influence others.

I feel blessed today.

 

[gnosisofthomas]

Read this article on the evil mystery religion that rivaled Christianity shortly after our Lords passion… Vows of secrecy, secret handshakes, hidden underground temples with initiation processes and symbolisms… For men only…!

Mithraism predates Masonry by centuries. Mystery Religions were quite common throughout the Roman Empire. Christianity was a Mystery Religion too, for that matter… The Sacraments were called Mysteries (as they still are by the Orthodox), and Christians had to be secretive as well, for their own safety.

 

[White_Tree]

…This “historical” article was originally written in Latin, I believe by the Greek historian Callisthenes, in the early 4th century.

Thanks for sharing this article.

I will publicly admit though, that the concept of plays and secrecy do make much more sense now than they did prior to creating this thread.

I’m glad our discussion was helpful. Thanks for starting a thread on this very interesting topic.

 

[PaulDupre]

Mithraism predates Masonry by centuries. Mystery Religions were quite common throughout the Roman Empire. Christianity was a Mystery Religion too, for that matter… The Sacraments were called Mysteries (as they still are by the Orthodox), and Christians had to be secretive as well, for their own safety.

The sacraments are still called mysteries by the RCC as well.

At every mass, the priest says “Let us proclaim the mystery of faith”. Then we all respond “When we eat this bread and drink this cup, we proclaim your death, oh Lord, until you come in glory”.

In Catholicism, a mystery is a truth which cannot be fully grasped by the human mind without the aid of the Holy Spirit.

Paul

 

[gnosisofthomas]

The sacraments are still called mysteries by the RCC as well.

At every mass, the priest says “Let us proclaim the mystery of faith”. Then we all respond “When we eat this bread and drink this cup, we proclaim your death, oh Lord, until you come in glory”.

In Catholicism, a mystery is a truth which cannot be fully grasped by the human mind without the aid of the Holy Spirit.

I’m aware of all that. It’s not commonly used to refer to the sacraments though… I’d get some funny looks if I refused to use the word “sacrament” and only said “mystery.”

“Mystery” meant basically the same thing in ancient Mystery Religions as well, though their idea of the Divine was different. An ineffable truth that can’t be taught or easily understood, only experienced…

 

[CopticChristian]

I’m aware of all that. It’s not commonly used to refer to the sacraments though… I’d get some funny looks if I refused to use the word “sacrament” and only said “mystery.”

“Mystery” meant basically the same thing in ancient Mystery Religions as well, though their idea of the Divine was different. An ineffable truth that can’t be taught or easily understood, only experienced…

Gnostic one,

As someone raised in the church of the Nazarene, journey through Lutheranism and baptized Catholic before becoming part of gnostic ecclesia…understand that if you had read the catechism…you would find the following…

The four parts are related one to another: the **Christian mystery **is the object of faith (first part); it is celebrated and communicated in liturgical actions (second part); it is present to enlighten and sustain the children of God in their actions (third part); it is the basis for our prayer, the privileged expression of which is the Our Father, and it represents the object of our supplication, our praise and our intercession (fourth part).

CHAPTER ONE
THE PASCHAL MYSTERY IN THE AGE OF THE CHURCH

CHAPTER TWO
THE SACRAMENTAL CELEBRATION OF THE PASCHAL MYSTERY

Christianity is described as a mystery as are the sacraments…it is a mystery…

 

[gnosisofthomas]

Gnostic one,

As someone raised in the church of the Nazarene, journey through Lutheranism and baptized Catholic before becoming part of gnostic ecclesia…understand that if you had read the catechism…you would find the following…

Lutheranism was less of a journey, more like a short bus ride! I visited the Lutheran church for about a month or two, with a friend of mine who went there. I was 14, and had just left the church I was raised in… My friend asked me to go after I had expressed interest in the Catholic Church, to try and disuade me. And I have read the Catechism.

Not sure what your recap of my journey to the Truth was for…

Christianity is described as a mystery as are the sacraments…it is a mystery…

Wow, we actually agree on something, Coptic one – It’s a miracle!