The state of our soul at death?

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So many tragedies in the world everyday now and so many people losing their lives it’s so very sad. It has got me thinking about our soul when we die…what if a person dies and they were cohabiting? or had a child out of marriage but they were were not with the child’s mother/father? If a person doesn’t go to mass or basically practise the Catholic faith? If wasn’t pleasing to God and could have lived a better life? I really hope everyone’s soul can be saved.
 
anon98328916 said:
So many tragedies in the world everyday now and so many people losing their lives it’s so very sad. It has got me thinking about our soul when we die…what if a person dies and they were cohabiting? or had a child out of marriage but they were were not with the child’s mother/father? If a person doesn’t go to mass or basically practise the Catholic faith? If wasn’t pleasing to God and could have lived a better life? I really hope everyone’s soul can be saved.
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The simple answer is we do not know. Without special revelation, the state of any person’s soul at death is unknown to man, despite all objective appearances. The cohabiting person can still end up in heaven. The devout can still go to hell.

We can hope any particular person’s soul will be saved, but we also know God does not lie. Souls go to hell too.
 
anon98328916 said:
So many tragedies in the world everyday now and so many people losing their lives it’s so very sad. It has got me thinking about our soul when we die…what if a person dies and they were cohabiting? or had a child out of marriage but they were were not with the child’s mother/father? If a person doesn’t go to mass or basically practise the Catholic faith? If wasn’t pleasing to God and could have lived a better life? I really hope everyone’s soul can be saved.
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That’s why we have Purgatory!

Which I firmly believe almost everybody gets.

It takes as much effort to be a great sinner as a great Saint, which is why I’d hope the first is as rare or rarer than the 2nd.

ICXC NIKA
 
Considering the great laxness of our times, I pray daily for those who have died “unaware and unprepared.” Not only Catholics, but others who are not taking their faith seriously or who have been fooled by the blandishments of the world, etc. We cannot know the state of anyone’s soul (except for those who have been declared Servants of God to Saint), but we can pray for them and hope for God’s mercy since most people are sinning through ignorance or weakness rather than defiance of God’s law.
 
I found this video helpful.

youtube.com/watch?v=dmsa0sg4Od4

In it he states that while it is possible that most people go to Hell, it is also possible that nobody goes to Hell.

If every wicked person had a change of heart in the last seconds of life and mentally prayed to God for forgiveness, then God might have mercy on all of them.
 
Sad to say, Hell is real, and many, many will go there. Our Lady of Fatima showed the children souls in Hell, and they were there permanently.

It is nice to hope that no one will go there but it is not realistic. Anyone dying in the state of unrepented mortal sin will go to Hell.

It is best to face this unpleasant truth and do all in our power with the help of God to ensure that we and others do no end up there. Live the gospel, the ten commandments, the corporal and spiritual works of mercy, pray, fast and make sacrifices for the conversion of souls.
 
jaimeleglise said:
Anyone dying in the state of unrepented mortal sin will go to Hell.
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Not necessarily, if you believe the Particular Judgment occurs at the instant of, or immediately following death, God still in His mercy provides for a post death repenting and conversion.
 
anon98328916 said:
So many tragedies in the world everyday now and so many people losing their lives it’s so very sad. It has got me thinking about our soul when we die…what if a person dies and they were cohabiting? or had a child out of marriage but they were were not with the child’s mother/father? If a person doesn’t go to mass or basically practise the Catholic faith? If wasn’t pleasing to God and could have lived a better life? I really hope everyone’s soul can be saved.
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Only God knows the state of a person’s soul at death.

However, we can objectively say with certainty that anyone dying in a state of grace is saved and anyone dying in a state of mortal sin goes to Hell.
 
I agree with you, thistle. Why would anyone take
a chance and leave repentance until after death?
 
jaimeleglise said:
I agree with you, thistle. Why would anyone take
a chance and leave repentance until after death?
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Agreed, but then again, immediate repentance might be a pipe dream. There is a distinct possibility of death between the occurrence of Mortal Sin and when the person has the opportunity for not just repentance, but absolution through the Sacraments. Sure, there is the possibility of Perfect Contrition, but from a legalistic standpoint (and I am not a legalist, but rather a believer in the ultimate and complete mercy of God), Reconciliation or Perfect Contrition must still occur before death to ensure salvation.
 
Neofight said:
Not necessarily, if you believe the Particular Judgment occurs at the instant of, or immediately following death, God still in His mercy provides for a post death repenting and conversion.
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You’re going to have to back this up with Church teaching of some sort.
 
As mentioned before, the only truth is no one knows what happens when you die. Let’s hope that love lives on and there is indeed something better than this, and someone waiting at home.
 
Strydersroom said:
As mentioned before, the only truth is no one knows what happens when you die. Let’s hope that love lives on and there is indeed something better than this, and someone waiting at home.
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What the heqq does “love lives on” mean, when those involved are dead?

Poetry might have some value in finding a romantic partner, but is useless in facing the sheer hideousness that is death.

ICXC NIKA
 
porthos11 said:
You’re going to have to back this up with Church teaching of some sort.
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All of the church teaching is steeped in the capacity of God’s mercy, which clearly out trumps any legalism that He as the author of the law cannot suspend for one of His children He feels is properly disposed at the instant of death.

As far as scriptural teaching…simple…“All things are possible with God.”

Maybe it’s a Franciscan thing!
 
jaimeleglise said:
Sad to say, Hell is real, and many, many will go there. Our Lady of Fatima showed the children souls in Hell, and they were there permanently.
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That’s impossible. The Catechism specifies that children below the age of reason can’t commit mortal sins, and that those above the age of reason might not have the maturity levels to be able to.
 
Grammar issue: there were not souls OF children in hell, but souls in hell shown TO the children at Fatima. Our Lady said, as I recall, that most of the souls had come there through sins of impurity, which is a horrifying thought when one considers that this was in 1917. What must it be like today, with widespread approval of all forms of offense against the Sixth and Ninth Commandments?
 
anon98328916 said:
So many tragedies in the world everyday now and so many people losing their lives it’s so very sad. It has got me thinking about our soul when we die…what if a person dies and they were cohabiting? or had a child out of marriage but they were were not with the child’s mother/father? If a person doesn’t go to mass or basically practise the Catholic faith? If wasn’t pleasing to God and could have lived a better life? I really hope everyone’s soul can be saved.
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Hence the prayer to Jesus at the end of each decade of the rosary, about Jesus leading all souls to heaven, especially those in most need of His mercy.

I am grieving right now because a friend has suddenly passed away. I pray that God’s mercy finds him.
 
I prefer not to think of things. Pray, hope and do not worry
 
Anna_jane said:
Grammar issue: there were not souls OF children in hell, but souls in hell shown TO the children at Fatima. Our Lady said, as I recall, that most of the souls had come there through sins of impurity, which is a horrifying thought when one considers that this was in 1917. What must it be like today, with widespread approval of all forms of offense against the Sixth and Ninth Commandments?
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It’s a kind of chrono-snobbery to maintain that folks didn’t know how to be impure in 1917.

Actually, what rattles me more is the case of Lucia’s friend Amelia who, it was said, would be in “Purgatory until the end of the world.” To have been the friend of s child, Amelia could have been no more than an early teenager. What sins could someone so young dead, have committed, to earn so much Purgatory!!!

ICXC NIKA
 
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