The "True" Church?

[steve_b]

I have seen the Protestant bashing on more than one thread in this forum. I do concede that some religions add catholic bashing straight from the pulpit. The protestants (if we choose to speak in generalities, do not do this).

It’s unfortunate when any Catholic doesn’t respond to faith issues or any issue for that matter, with charity.
L:

Also, if I am not mistaken, protestantism was directly based off of catholicism. So both religions share the SAME roots.

Division is still division.

Jesus prayer is that the Church remains one like He and the Father are one. THAT’s how united we are to be.

Therefore, regarding Jesus prayer vs all the divisions we see,

· are 10’s of thousands of protestant divisions, teaching different doctrines and conflicting teachings, okay? No
· Are 500 divisions okay? No
· Are just 2 divisions okay? No

How did St Paul address division / dissensions / factions?

Rom 16:
17 I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. 18 For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.19 Everyone has heard about your obedience, so I am full of joy over you; but I want you to be wise about what is good, and innocent about what is evil. 20 The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet.

Gal 5:
19 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Are these passages as valid today, the 16th century, the 10th century, …as they were back in the 1st century?
L:

I was not upset by any comments on here except for one in which I was told that it was MY duty to convert my wife from protestantism and through pm told that she would go to hell (and I would be spiritually in jeopardy) if I did not do my duty to convert. *It’s our mandate that we spread the Gospel, not shove it down everyones throat. *

agreed.
L:

I don’t think that my wife will go to hell because she doesn’t believe in things such as intercession. I don’t think that she will go to hell by not believing in Marion dogma.
Furthermore, while good deeds are not enough, aren’t most (I would almost dare say all) christian faiths based off of the same text?

Keep in mind, that the NT was written by and for the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church assembled the OT + NT for herself and named the book the bible. If others use the bible, it’s because the Catholic Church gave it to the world. The Catholic Church (Mother Church) has the right to interpret her own book.
L:

Aside from all the problems between the different flavors of christianity, most believe that the only way is through Him and not exclusively through one church.

Jesus and His Church are as one as He and the Father are one. The Holy Spirit isn’t the author of all the division and confusion we see out there. It’s Satan. Ref: Rom 16:17… above.

Jesus established one Church through His apostles united with Peter as the leader. It won’t change. That’s the Church, united with Peter that has all the promises from Jesus. To be in this Church is to remain faithful to Jesus prayer. Division from which there is a problem for the soul as one can see from the quotes above. Not my words but Paul’s.
J:

I would love to hear the words of Jesus not contained within the Bible. I do not think that Catholicism holds these words. If it did, then I would be on board wholeheartedly.

Any thoughts on the 2 passages above from Romans, & Galatians?

 

[Gaber]

Yes, Love conquers all, not precepts or doctrines or beliefs.

And I might add that beleifs, therefore, are separation. Love unites, beliefs separate. Spmethig known unites, what is thougth to be devides. mind devides, the heart unites. Unless theyu dance together, we have problems.