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How can we be sure the church is the true path? I will admit I have been sceptical when I asked and a priest refused to give me reconciliation .
I just feel a bit confused right now.
 
We can be sure because it is the Church Jesus Christ started. You can look back through history and trace the Catholic Church right to the Apostles. As for absolution if you are not repentent, why should you be resolved? Or did I misunderstand your question? Have you ever read any writings from The Early Church Fathers?
 
How does the priest know what was in my heart and I didnt repent. Thats my problem. The priest is not a mind reader so how does he know? After that happened I refuse to see a priest because he “dont know” what is inside.
Its a problem.
 
jastor said:
How does the priest know what was in my heart and I didnt repent. Thats my problem. The priest is not a mind reader so how does he know? After that happened I refuse to see a priest because he “dont know” what is inside.
Its a problem.
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You must not be telling all the story, if the priest said No and you think you are in the right you may need to talk to your Bishop
 
jastor said:
How does the priest know what was in my heart and I didnt repent. Thats my problem. The priest is not a mind reader so how does he know? After that happened I refuse to see a priest because he “dont know” what is inside.
Its a problem.
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Don’t tell us what you told him, but if you told him you have no intentions of not sinning again (which is not the same thing as saying you’ll try but it’s hard to do so) or said some other thing that made it clear to him that you were there under false pretenses (not saying you did) or something else of that nature he had the right and obligation not to give you absolution. If you felt he misunderstood you, then go to another priest and explain what happened and make a good confession. The ball’s in your court.
 
Explain the situation and your intention not to sin again and hopefully you will receive absolution.
Mary:shrug:
 
jastor said:
How can we be sure the church is the true path? I will admit I have been sceptical when I asked and a priest refused to give me reconciliation .
I just feel a bit confused right now.
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Why not quit asking man/woman?

Proverbs 2: 1-6… God speaks on His own behalf, ya know. 😉
 
God speaks on His own behalf, ya know

He told me to tell you that confession is an entirely different matter.
 
How can we be sure the church is the true path? I will admit I have been sceptical when I asked and a priest refused to give me reconciliation .

The priest does not “give reconciliation”. He gives absolution.

And you didn’t say WHY you were refused absolution.

How does the priest know what was in my heart and I didnt repent. Thats my problem. The priest is not a mind reader so how does he know? After that happened I refuse to see a priest because he “dont know” what is inside.

You, of course, know EXACTLY that’s in this priest’s heart, and what’s inside him, don’t you?

There’s something about this story you’re not telling us.
 
Cluny said:
God speaks on His own behalf, ya know

He told me to tell you that confession is an entirely different matter.
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Geesh! Did He inform you WHAT it was that I was supposed to confess? 🤷 I was under the impression that was between Us. Shhhhh! I have an image to protect here, ya know. 😉

Seriously, the way I see it, confession to another man is just man’s kick on getting to know another’s deep, dark secrets. I really have none. I was that person who never saw myself above the human experience that I could not admit to doing wrong. 👍
 
simplynoone said:
Geesh! Did He inform you WHAT it was that I was supposed to confess? 🤷 I was under the impression that was between Us. Shhhhh! I have an image to protect here, ya know. 😉

Seriously, the way I see it, confession to another man is just man’s kick on getting to know another’s deep, dark secrets. I really have none. I was that person who never saw myself above the human experience that I could not admit to doing wrong. 👍
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Are you for real? Both O.T. & N.T. talk extensively about confession.
 
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Are you for real? Both O.T. & N.T. talk extensively about confession.
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Here is what the Tanakh has to say about confession:

Psalm 32:
4 For day and night thy hand was heavy upon me: my moisture is turned into the drought of summer. Selah.
5 I acknowledge my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the LORD; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah.
6 For this shall every one that is godly pray unto thee in a time when thou mayest be found: surely in the floods of great waters they shall not come nigh unto him.

Proverbs 28:
12 When righteous men do rejoice, there is great glory: but when the wicked rise, a man is hidden.
13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.
14 Happy is the man that feareth alway: but he that hardeneth his heart shall fall into mischief.

Daniel 9:
3 And I set my face unto the Lord God, to seek by prayer and supplications, with fasting, and sackcloth, and ashes:
4 And I prayed unto the LORD my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments;

There IS a difference between the confession to which the Church teaches and that which is spoken of in the Tanakh. Confession in the Tanakh also included:
  1. A sincere heart
  2. A turning away from iniquity
  3. Confession to God, not a man
There is nothing about anything that is done in a booth… no 10 hail mary’s… nothing of the sort. Also, note that true confession is not real unless there is a turning away from the wickedness… no coverings of blood are talked about.

The type of Confession that the Church teaches is not the type of confession that is taught in the Tanakh. In fact, that type of confession is so insincere, it is planned out. True confession, when the heart is heavy and burdened, does not follow a ritualistic visit to a booth.
 
Ahh yes this is going to be a longgggg and very good discussion here. We are going to have to go back wayyyyyyyyy back and start from scratch and clear up some of your misconceptions about the Sacrament of Reconciliation.what does everyone else here think?
 
jastor said:
How can we be sure the church is the true path? I will admit I have been sceptical when I asked and a priest refused to give me reconciliation .
I just feel a bit confused right now.
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That is a question no one can answer for you. You have to do some serious soul searching, and find that answer yourself.

Blessings.
 
The act of reconciliation is to provide you the chance to ask God’s forgiveness so that in the end of time when the earth is no more and death of the body has occured you won’t suffer separation from God or the pains of Hades. To truly be repentant of a sin means that you aren’t committing that sin anymore. If a priest feels that you are not being genuine in your efforts to reconcile yourself with God, then out of skepticism that priest won’t absolve you of your sins.
But if the priest is outright refusing reconciliation then if it is possible find another priest. The whole reason for reconciliation is to cleanse the soul of the stain of sins committed in the life before death, in hopes for a chance to lessen the wait for that persons soul to be in God’s presence. I know the explanation was wordy but I hope you can understand what I’ve just explained.
God’s blessings be upon you Mary:)
 
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