There's no Ism like Thomism

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Someone asked this on another forum. Is anyone familiar with this? I’d guess that it came out of the 1950’s.

There’s no ism like Thomism,
Like no ism I know!
Everything aout it is dogmatic,
nothing that Saint Thomas won’t allow,
Nothing like the feeling that you’re feeling,
when you’re revealing
a Sacred Cow!

There’s no matter like prime matter
like no matter I know!
Everything about it is pontential,
ever moving, always on the go! . . .

CDL
 
Someone asked this on another forum. Is anyone familiar with this? I’d guess that it came out of the 1950’s …
JMJ + OBT​

That’s the same “ism” to which one of our Pope’s, Leo XIII, dedicated an encyclical (1879):

Aeterni Patris

From the same:
[R]eason, borne on the wings of Thomas to its human height, can scarcely rise higher, while faith could scarcely expect more or stronger aids from reason than those which she has already obtained through Thomas.
Make sure to read the whole thing!

In the Hearts of Jesus and Mary.

IC XC NIKA
 
Whosebob,

I’m happy to discuss Thomistic philosophy and theology. I’ve come to appreciate the Angelic Doctor as perhaps the greatest theologian God has ever inspired.

But, I was wondering if anyone knows this little ditty probably made up by some seminarians from the 1950’s. I had never seen or heard it before and a priest from Ireland asked about it.

CDL
 
I’m happy to discuss Thomistic philosophy and theology. I’ve come to appreciate the Angelic Doctor as perhaps the greatest theologian God has ever inspired.
That’s the last thing I expected to hear from someone titled GregoryPalamas. I appreciate both theologians, of course, but Aquinas is definately my #1 because of his brilliant synthesis of East and West, work which becomes more profound the more I delve into it. I’m taking Thomas as my Confirmation name 🙂

Not quite on topic, but I couldn’t pass it up 😛

God bless!
 
😉 After all these years we Eastern Catholics are still trying to get our unruly children back together.

CDL
 
Ghosty and GregoryPalamas;

I’m trying to tackle the Summa, one article a day (it will take me 8 years!!!) I’m currently in Question 16 of the Prima Pars, and I feel I have understood maybe 75% so far. Do you have any recommendations for understanding it more easily? A year or two ago I read “Summa of the Summa” and “Aristotle for Beginners.” I would appreciate any ideas you have. Also, is it typical for someone to have difficulty following some of the arguments, or am I just a little slower than the average bear?
 
Larry,

You may understand St. Thomas as well as I do. It is not untypical to get lost in his arguments. We live in a nominalist age and have for several centuries. It is difficult to get past our assumptions and understand that the truth really can set us free. I really have spent most of my life trying to understand the Patristics period and have only recently taken up with St. Thomas. But as I said, I very much appreciate him.

CDL
 
Ghosty and GregoryPalamas;

I’m trying to tackle the Summa, one article a day (it will take me 8 years!!!) I’m currently in Question 16 of the Prima Pars, and I feel I have understood maybe 75% so far. Do you have any recommendations for understanding it more easily? A year or two ago I read “Summa of the Summa” and “Aristotle for Beginners.” I would appreciate any ideas you have. Also, is it typical for someone to have difficulty following some of the arguments, or am I just a little slower than the average bear?
As weird as this may sound, I recommend a lot of prayer before the Eucharist. That is how Aquinas himself got through things that were difficult for him to understand. He would even rest his head next to the Tabernacle while praying and trying to grasp theological truths. I’ve found that this, more than anything, has helped me to grasp not only what Aquinas was arguing, but also what the Fathers were saying as well. It’s much easier to understand words about God when you’ve just come away from an encounter with God. This, incidently, is a significant aspect of Dominican spirituality in general: encounter God in order to preach about God.

And no, you’re not slower than the average bear. Aquinas himself actually wrestled with these questions, and often dictated after mystical experiences when things would “click” together for him. What I found most helpful was to re-read the first few sections over and over until I got a grasp of his style and language; the fact is that his arguments are often extremely subtle, and it takes time to understand just where he’s going with something. I would often think I understood a point of his, only to realize a few sections later that either I had MISunderstood, or he was utterly contradicting himself. Obviously it was the former and not the latter, so I’d go back and try to grasp what he was saying. After a lot of this I got a “feel” for his style, and the arguments started to fit together into an amazingly elegant and intricate web.

Beyond that I think the key issue was touched on by GregoryPalamas: we live in a nominalist age and think in a nominalist way. We tend to think of ideas as either not having a real, absolute reality, or that our definitions of them are merely our own conceptions put on an ultimately unknowable thing. Aquinas, like all the Church Fathers, operated from the assumption that things are really, really real, and that there is a definate truth to be known about them (even if, as in the case of God, the Truth is infinite and can’t be fully comprehended by the human mind). It helps to think as concretely as possible when reading his work, and to take his examples as literally and simply as possible. For example, when he speaks of “participation in the Divine Nature” in terms of iron being heated by fire, he means it as bluntly as possible: our human nature, by contact with the Divine Nature, shares in the properties of that Nature just as iron shares in the properties of fire (heat, light, ect.).

So to summarize: pray, back track, think concretely, and pray. 😃

BTW, I recommend you start with Aquinas’ own prayer that he penned:

Creator of all things,
true source of light and wisdom,
origin of all being,
graciously let a ray of your light penetrate
the darkness of my understanding.

Take from me the double darkness
in which I have been born,
an obscurity of sin and ignorance.
Give me a keen understanding,
a retentive memory, and
the ability to grasp things
correctly and fundamentally.

Grant me the talent
of being exact in my explanations
and the ability to express myself
with thoroughness and charm.
Point out the beginning,
direct the progress,
and help in the completion.

I ask this through Christ our Lord.
Amen.
 
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