Tim Radcliff at it again

[bones_IV]

“We may feel that we are not proper Catholics or second class because …” Talk about someone who constantly discards doctrines of the Church. What to do about these people. Anyone who defies Church teaching has put God in second place as far as I’m concerned.

indcatholicnews.com/timrad218.html

 

[vince2paul]

Could you tell me more abt the author? I have lots of articles by him, but I have no time to read it yet. May be I shoud be cautious.

 

[mchium]

“We may feel that we are not proper Catholics or second class because …” Talk about someone who constantly discards doctrines of the Church. What to do about these people. Anyone who defies Church teaching has put God in second place as far as I’m concerned.

indcatholicnews.com/timrad218.html

Thanks for sharing this. A church and a mosque - that’s a good one. Sad, really - I know many priests like this. Fortunately, I also know many holy and faithful priests, too…and their numbers are slowly getting stronger.

The Fr Radcliffs will slowly fade (like the chesire cat ?? ) in due time.

 

[manualman]

Well, I gotta say that I expected worse from the sendup you gave it. He seems to have a rather lower Christology than I do and he is arguably pastoral to the point of obscuring Truth. But nothing I saw was overtly a denial of the faith.

Gays, fornicators and adulterers DO need to know that they are not worthless rejects no longer loved by God. They need to know that they are precious in His sight and that he wishes for them to be whole and healed. Yup, a part of that is missing from the homily, but it didn’t deny anything.

As for church and mosque, relax. That too seems to be merely an attempt to acknowledge that earnest muslims too have glimpsed some aspects of the Glory of God.

Frankly, if you are going to demonize this guy, you’d better come up with some juicier stuff!

 

[rpp]

Had I been present at this Mass, I think I would have walked out when he said,

So God is like the Cheshire Cat, slowly disappearing from our sight.

Which of course came well after he **repeatedly **described the Ascension as “disappearance”.

The whole text was skating on the thin edge of doctrinal error. It is shameful.

 

[sosayi1960]

Had I been present at this Mass, I think I would have walked out when he said,

Which of course came well after he **repeatedly **described the Ascension as “disappearance”.

The whole text was skating on the thin edge of doctrinal error. It is shameful.

He’s gonna be a Saint someday. I walked out of Easter Mass because the music was in Latin. Seemed rather like a funeral then the Ressurection. No wonder the church is getting smaller

 

[rpp]

He’s gonna be a Saint someday. I walked out of Easter Mass because the music was in Latin. Seemed rather like a funeral then the Ressurection. No wonder the church is getting smaller

I am so sorry that your dislike of certain forms of sacred music would lead you leave Mass. Did you go to Mass elsewhere? If you did not go to Mass anywhere else, did you go to confession before receiving Holy Eucharist at the next Mass? Of course I am sure you realize missing Mass for no good reason is a Mortal sin and until you go to confession, a person in a state of Mortal sin must not receive the Body and Blood of our Lord in the Eucharist.

But then, I suppose you are using sarcasm as humor. Only a compete fool would walk out of a Mass because they did not like the music.

I would have left Fr. Radcliff’s Mass because it would have been clear I was not at a valid Mass.

 

[Smber2c]

Huh, that’s a complicated sermon. Not the subject matter, but the apparent motivations (of course precieved motivations since I can’t eally know them).

It seems that the use of ‘disappeaing’ was 2 fold. First to make the traditional Cathoics uneasy and secondly to set up his uses of the word ‘disappearing’ though the rest of the sermon.

His point of course was that we need to judge less and welcome sinners more. The approach of stirring the emotions of the traditional Catholics and the educated Catholics (not necessarily the same people, but the 2 groups most likely to see the incorrect theological terms and teachings) to make this point is probably ill concieved.

Kind of like intentionally picking a fight, then saying “remember that Christians shouldn’t attack one another”.

I don’t think I would have left, and I certainly don’t see this a making the mass invalid.

Is there some teaching I’m not aware of that can invalidate masses this easily? I thought it was about: intent (the priest’s disposition), form (the words he has to say), and substance (the proper types of bread and wine). What does a homily have to do with it? And I ask this with all sincerity.

 

[vince2paul]

Thanks for sharing this. A church and a mosque - that’s a good one. Sad, really - I know many priests like this. Fortunately, I also know many holy and faithful priests, too…and their numbers are slowly getting stronger.

The Fr Radcliffs will slowly fade (like the chesire cat ?? ) in due time.

“**The Chapel of the Ascension in Jerusalem is a Christian and Muslim holy site **that is believed to mark the place where Jesus ascended into heaven. The small round church/mosque contains a stone imprinted with the very footprints of Jesus.”

There is a brief history on the source page.
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