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because I won’t engage in PMS. I mean it’s like you’re a freak or something. I don’t even want to date anymore because the lack of respect I get. I mean whatever happened to just getting to know someone. It just seems to be all about one thing these days. This is directed at both men and women. What do you think true for you too or not? :eek: 🤷
 
i never really encountered anything like this. im curious if it could be regional or cultural to be so far gone as you say. are you around mostly catholics?
 
I haven’t had this problem, but I won’t date a women unless I have reason to believe that she has good moral character.

Then again, I’m single, so obviously I haven’t had much success in the relationship department either…
 
Before I got married I found that alot of guys thought it was a personal challenge to get me to sleep with them once they found out that I didn’t believe in pre-marital sex. I got really good at filtering these guys out and not going on more than 1 date with them. When I met dh, I found that there were gentlemen left in the world and I fell head over heels… and haven’t regretted it yet… 6 yrs of dating and being abstinent and then 3+ yrs of marital bliss…
 
because I won’t engage in PMS. I mean it’s like you’re a freak or something. I don’t even want to date anymore because the lack of respect I get. I mean whatever happened to just getting to know someone. It just seems to be all about one thing these days. This is directed at both men and women. What do you think true for you too or not? :eek: 🤷
Haha…I thought you meant the other PMS! It made me a bit confused. Sorry!

Please…as it is pretty apparent you will…stick to your guns on this one! No one should ever have to compromise their morality for the sake of another person’s physical pleasure.

Be patient and be content knowing that you are making God happy and that He will bring what is best for you at a time that is most fitting for your life. Again, stay patient and prayerfully approach every relationship and be prayerfully open to anything God wants you to discern.

My philosophy on sex is that…it is sex…and people can make it work. I say that, because so many people have this false notion that you must find out if you are sexually compatible before continuing a relationship…what silliness. If people of the same sex have no problem having relationships that involve no sex, then certainly people of the opposite sex should be able to do the same thing.

Thank God this is no longer an issue for me since I have been discerning the priesthood for about a year now!

May God bless you in treating the gift of your body the way He intended you to…as a gift to be cherished not abused/misused!
 
because I won’t engage in PMS. I mean it’s like you’re a freak or something. I don’t even want to date anymore because the lack of respect I get. I mean whatever happened to just getting to know someone. It just seems to be all about one thing these days. This is directed at both men and women. What do you think true for you too or not? :eek: 🤷
These people haven’t found God in their heart. Lots haven’t. You have. No need to give up on dating. Just maybe try and find people who have similar values to you in a a Catholic setting. There is Church (not mine, most of the men are like sunny side of 75yrs old), there are Catholic single dating sites. The WYD08 site has a singles group xt3.com/, don’t know how old you are but there are Catholic Youth Groups and Catholic young adults groups. There are a lot of half baked Catholics so no guarantee you will find everyone in these groups who holds the same values as you do, but you might find you have better chance if you try and find a Catholic who’s really found God if you move in the area of where more Catholics congregate. I am sure others can give you tips on where to meet Catholics.

If you move closer to God and pray I am sure God will direct a nice one your way when he thinks the time is right.

Sometimes I have noticed that people who are moving closer to God need time to really harness that relationship with the Lord before they embark on spousal search. I really wish I had been like you when I was younger and God gave me like 30yrs to conduct my search. I married the first immoral twit that came along, and marriage is a serious thing, so there is nothing wrong with taking your time here.

or you can be like me and trade in dating for God!!! 😃
 
Before I got married I found that alot of guys thought it was a personal challenge to get me to sleep with them once they found out that I didn’t believe in pre-marital sex. I got really good at filtering these guys out and not going on more than 1 date with them. When I met dh, I found that there were gentlemen left in the world and I fell head over heels… and haven’t regretted it yet… 6 yrs of dating and being abstinent and then 3+ yrs of marital bliss…
awwwwww…i really hope someday…that will happen to me!
yeah i have to admit…one of my really good guy friends thinks im absolutely mad because im soo different to any average girl. He thinks that not having pre-martial sex when a girl and a guy have been dating for 3yrs is absolutely impossible. but i think thats honestly true love!!!

Actually, another guy i knew said
  • ‘All my chrisitan friends are the ones that obsess about sex because they haven’t had it.’
    I also hate the excuse of guys or girls saying - ‘I dont want a virgin, I would want a girl/guy who has had experience.’ Then i normally say, Honestly, who is watching, it’s not a performance - why do you need experience?? - selfish much??lolz…
  • normally, those two points i just said makes my blood boil!! because they are quite untrue.
    but then i always tell this guy - ‘you know i can choose to be like you any day, but you, you cant become like me.’ - this often starts them up but it sometimes works like a charm.
awww… and dw, patience is a virtue. That right person will come when it is time. Even i have to remind myself of that…
 
I thought I should post this quote by our Lord:

John 15:17-19
This I command you: love one another. "If the world hates you, realize that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, the world would love its own; but because you do not belong to the world, and I have chosen you out of the world, the world hates you.

It is because your beliefs of morality do not belong to this world is why you are “hated” or looked down upon. Remember…Jesus has chosen you out of the world as one of the blessed who understand the importance of living a life or purity!
 
I’ve been really lucky that in all stages of life from high school through college any guy I dated had the same morals as I did.

I mean I went on dates with guys that didn’t - to fraternity parties or sorority mixers or proms…however, I was pretty up front that they weren’t going to get “laid” at the end of the night.

It is actually interesting, because I was in a sorority in college. A sorority known for its partying habits. Sure, I had plenty of fun in college, but I would have never gone home with a guy. Some guys were shocked if I said I wasn’t interested, but most were actually really respecful. It would end with a kiss on the cheek and back to my girlfriends I would go.

I don’t and never have thought that it was a big deal. It never seemed that guys were offended or thought it some competition. For how big of a party school my school was a lot of people seemed to take issue with sex before marriage…of course, there were also a lot that thought it OK.
 
I’ve been really lucky that in all stages of life from high school through college any guy I dated had the same morals as I did.

I mean I went on dates with guys that didn’t - to fraternity parties or sorority mixers or proms…however, I was pretty up front that they weren’t going to get “laid” at the end of the night.

It is actually interesting, because I was in a sorority in college. A sorority known for its partying habits. Sure, I had plenty of fun in college, but I would have never gone home with a guy. Some guys were shocked if I said I wasn’t interested, but most were actually really respecful. It would end with a kiss on the cheek and back to my girlfriends I would go.

I don’t and never have thought that it was a big deal. It never seemed that guys were offended or thought it some competition. For how big of a party school my school was a lot of people seemed to take issue with sex before marriage…of course, there were also a lot that thought it OK.
You’re very lucky then. My experience has almost been the complete opposit. I’ve only dated two guys that didn’t bring the subject up…one who later up became a priest and another who has some issues I still don’t know about plaguing him (never dated him long enough to find out what those issues were). :eek: It’s hard to tell a guys moral charactor sometimes until you actually gotten to know him. I’ve dated a few from Christian sites that were pretty much the same as the guys on the secular sites. 🤷
 
because I won’t engage in PMS. I mean it’s like you’re a freak or something. I don’t even want to date anymore because the lack of respect I get. I mean whatever happened to just getting to know someone. It just seems to be all about one thing these days. This is directed at both men and women. What do you think true for you too or not? :eek: 🤷
It can be lonely, doing the right thing–but God sees everything we do, and nothing we do, goes in vain. I was dumped a lot during my dating years because I wouldn’t engage in PMS. I knew that those men were not the right ones, then. My husband when we dated, was happy to wait. He also had changed his ways, and wanted someone who shared the same view.

They are out there–but it is like finding a diamond in the rough. There are men and women who will wait for marriage. I’m sorry you’re being “dumped” right now, but it’s all part of our journey for Christ, I guess. I hope you find someone some day soon who appreciates this virtue you bestow!

((hugs))
 
awwwwww…i really hope someday…that will happen to me!
yeah i have to admit…one of my really good guy friends thinks im absolutely mad because im soo different to any average girl. He thinks that not having pre-martial sex when a girl and a guy have been dating for 3yrs is absolutely impossible. but i think thats honestly true love!!!

Actually, another guy i knew said
  • ‘All my chrisitan friends are the ones that obsess about sex because they haven’t had it.’
    I also hate the excuse of guys or girls saying - ‘I dont want a virgin, I would want a girl/guy who has had experience.’ Then i normally say, Honestly, who is watching, it’s not a performance - why do you need experience?? - selfish much??lolz…
  • normally, those two points i just said makes my blood boil!! because they are quite untrue.
    but then i always tell this guy - ‘you know i can choose to be like you any day, but you, you cant become like me.’ - this often starts them up but it sometimes works like a charm.
awww… and dw, patience is a virtue. That right person will come when it is time. Even i have to remind myself of that…
It will… as soon as you stop thinking about it and make other plans.

May I ask why you are discussing this with casual male friends? It seems a bit like you may be focusing or letting them focus on sex way too much. Just go about being yourself and worshiping God… the right one will come along.

Good places to find good Catholic men are at church or church functions or groups.
 
hehe…I was reading the OP and I was like “what guy wouldn’t want a woman who didn’t have PMS?”…😛
 
I didn’t get married until my LATE 20’s, and I was a virgin when I got married.

It was tough. A lot of the guys that I had for friends would never consider dating me, because I didn’t believe in PMS.

The right one came along and he respected me for my faith and beliefs. He had a conversion experience, and he wished that he had come to our relationship a virgin as well.
 
Those who are very against PMS will be few and far between, especially if you’re looking for men. There just aren’t many of us out there. You have to look in the right places. I would start at a church, or if you’re still in college, check out a youth group or something to that nature…

I would also avoid dating someone unless you know they have good morals. This should come up in the pre-dating stage. For instance, I’ve been talking with a girl lately here at college. We started as good friends. I knew she was a practicing Catholic, so it was easy to discuss such topics as PMS. Now we’re close to dating and it’s great to know ahead of time what kind of moral values she has.

You have to actively seek these types of people these days. It’s a shame, but they are out there.
 
because I won’t engage in PMS. I mean it’s like you’re a freak or something. I don’t even want to date anymore because the lack of respect I get. I mean whatever happened to just getting to know someone. It just seems to be all about one thing these days. This is directed at both men and women. What do you think true for you too or not? :eek: 🤷
Speaking from the late 80s early 90s here… around Catholics and other “good” Christians I didn’t know anyone who hadn’t had PMS personally… wait I take that back. I knew one female (and I went to a religious, Methodist, school). I could quote you probably a thousand secular psych studies (and a few religious ones) at the time “proving” it was an outdated taboo…

I have met a few since, some were divorced in a year due to “incompatibility” whatever that means and attended one of those Bible Churches. The only other couple I know are Catholic, they waited…

And I have to say that they have one of the most blessed Marriages I have seen. They are both active in the Church and just beautiful people both inside and out. Secular society will try to tell you, especially guys it seems, that if you aren’t having PMS then it’s because you are somehow inferior. That’s is where the pressure comes from with guys IMHO.

It can be done though and we, my wife and I, be raising our sons to wait and respect the teachings of the Church. I came from a more liberal Presbyterian background and studied theology at the height of the “Historical Jesus” movement pushing moral relativism, it definitely had a negative influence on my reasoning.

Joe
 
Speaking from the late 80s early 90s here… around Catholics and other “good” Christians I didn’t know anyone who hadn’t had PMS personally… wait I take that back. I knew one female (and I went to a religious, Methodist, school). I could quote you probably a thousand secular psych studies (and a few religious ones) at the time “proving” it was an outdated taboo…Joe
I’m from the same time period, and except for a few of my very close friends, I absolutely agree.

I went to a Catholic School (hs and college) and it was the same. I remember being at a party when one girl came in and very excitedly announced that she had been de-virginized.😦

Another girl in my Catholic hs had sex for the first time with one of the guys in our class. He was a friend, and she told me that you wouldn’t want to have sex for the first time with your boyfriend!:confused:

Where I worked in hs and college was the same. My 2 friends and I were the ONLY virgins - and that included the ones who were younger than we were!
 
😦 Thanks everyone for your interesting responses. I’m just frustrated with the world I guess. I’m taking myself off the market and guess that I’ll just have to get used to living a single life. I’m not willing to compromise my morals and it’s really too late for me to change and start sleeping around. Even if I was into that sort of thing I’d most likely have to date someone for several months the going rate these days seems to 4 or 5 dates then the roll in the hay senario. :rolleyes: 🤷
 
because I won’t engage in PMS. I mean it’s like you’re a freak or something. I don’t even want to date anymore because the lack of respect I get. I mean whatever happened to just getting to know someone. It just seems to be all about one thing these days. This is directed at both men and women. What do you think true for you too or not? :eek: 🤷
I have noticed it has become like some sort of I don’t know trend?? It’s ridiculous the peer pressure involved as well…Many have fallen and many will but as long as you keep to your commitment and your love for GOD who cares about what they say or think!! You are blessed and will be blessed even more when you find the right one!!
 
because I won’t engage in PMS. I mean it’s like you’re a freak or something. I don’t even want to date anymore because the lack of respect I get. I mean whatever happened to just getting to know someone. It just seems to be all about one thing these days. This is directed at both men and women. What do you think true for you too or not? :eek: 🤷
Women around here are typically not absolutely opposed to premarital sex, although they will not try to lead to a single encounter. Most will probably be able to live without it until married and to marry without “finding out” first. However, I’m not strong enough to get over the fact that a person would normally be sexually active but is not only because of me, so I would normally not have a relationship with a sexually active person, barring any indication of change. This might be different if I had tremendous respect for the person for some other reasons.

At any rate, I would like to try with a practicing and obeying Catholic for once.

Children are to be taught that premarital sex is wrong, which is non-negotiable. This may cause problems with a potential spouse who believes otherwise. Essential goods of marriage are not negotiable, either. I will not marry someone who excludes permanence, exclusivity or progeny. Contraception is not an option - given the abortifacient effect of contraceptive pills, I think I’d rather stay unmarried than have sex knowing a child that could actually be conceived could be killed.

This said, I will not marry someone simply because she is Catholic - there is a ton of important things that aren’t covered in the literal understanding of the core matters. I need to be attracted, I need to respect the person a lot, I need to have something in common, I need to be able to communicate, I need some bond, companionship, community. This is not brother and sister.

So far I’m fine. I realise I may not be able to find what I seek, but that won’t make my life miserable. And the alternative would be worse. Besides, I have faith that God will provide - and if not, then perhaps for the better of me. Maybe it wouldn’t be the best for me, how do I know?
 
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