Title of 'Pope'

[Suetonius]

‘Pope’ or ‘Papa’ is the shorterned form of Pater** Pa**triae
we also get ‘Patriarch’ from this

The name appears on this coin

 

[Filii_Dei]

‘Pope’ or ‘Papa’ is the shorterned form of Pater** Pa**triae
we also get ‘Patriarch’ from this

The name appears on this coin
http://www.romanemperors.com/images/augustus/augustus-denarius.jpg

Dubious. Pater Patriae is used to describe the Roman Emperor. To make it even more unlikely, he would not have tolerated anyone else co-opting that name, apart from the fact that the image you have provided is that of a coin depicting the head of Caesar Augustus, who was crowned even before Jesus was born, let alone consecrated the Bishop of Rome. Furthermore, abbreviations weren’t as popular in the past as they are now.

There is also a far simpler explanation: calling somebody ‘father’ (in Greek páppas and in Latin papa) since antiquity has been used to address somebody of social and/or spiritual authority.

 

[Suetonius]

Dubious. Pater Patriae is used to describe the Roman Emperor. To make it even more unlikely, he would not have tolerated anyone else co-opting that name, apart from the fact that the image you have provided is that of a coin depicting the head of Caesar Augustus, who was crowned even before Jesus was born, let alone consecrated the Bishop of Rome. Furthermore, abbreviations weren’t as popular in the past as they are now.

There is also a far simpler explanation: calling somebody ‘father’ (in Greek páppas and in Latin papa) since antiquity has been used to address somebody of social and/or spiritual authority.

It makes it More Likely, since the Emperor was the Highiest of All priests in the Roman Empire as the Pontifax Maximus, and Pontifax is where we get Pontiff, which is directly applied to the Pope, and after the death of Julius Caesar, the Roman Senate transformed him, into an Imperial God, and mutated with Mitra, from which we get Mithras, and the Vatican was Originally, the Mithraeum, and the Head Priest, coincedently was titled “Pater Patriae”, Mithras was born from a “Rock” aka “Petro/Peter” and upon this “Rock” (The Mithraeum), i shall built my Church aka The Vatican.

 

[Filii_Dei]

It makes it More Likely, since the Emperor was the Highiest of All priests in the Roman Empire as the Pontifax Maximus, and Pontifax is where we get Pontiff, which is directly applied to the Pope, and after the death of Julius Caesar, the Roman Senate transformed him, into an Imperial God, and mutated with Mitra, from which we get Mithras, and the Vatican was Originally, the Mithraeum, and the Head Priest, coincedently was titled “Pater Patriae”, Mithras was born from a “Rock” aka “Petro/Peter” and upon this “Rock” (The Mithraeum), i shall built my Church aka The Vatican.

Again, highly unlikely. While the Pope is indeed the Pontifex Maximus, it does not necessarily mean that all titles that were held by the Roman Emperor transfer to the Pope. Both coexisted in ancient history, and not once in historical record has the Bishop of Rome ever been referred to as ‘Pater Patriae’, and even so, they are not as linguistically lazy as you think that they would abbreviate it as ‘Papa’. I’ve also given you a far simpler and probable basis for its etymology instead of your unsubstantiated conjectures, but you have conveniently neglected it.

Let it be known to you that the Patriach of Antioch is also called the Pope. Do you argue that the Pope of Alexandria is also somehow the ‘Pater Patriae’? Or is it by far more likely simply an honorific to address a spiritual leader of great importance?

And lastly, you’re incoherent. I can hardly identify your line of reasoning.

 

[Suetonius]

Again, highly unlikely. While the Pope is indeed the Pontifex Maximus, it does not necessarily mean that all titles that were held by the Roman Emperor transfer to the Pope. Both coexisted in ancient history, and not once in historical record has the Bishop of Rome ever been referred to as ‘Pater Patriae’, and even so, they are not as linguistically lazy as you think that they would abbreviate it as ‘Papa’. I’ve also given you a far simpler and probable basis for its etymology instead of your unsubstantiated conjectures, but you have conveniently neglected it.

Let it be known to you that the Patriach of Antioch is also called the Pope. Do you argue that the Pope of Alexandria is also somehow the ‘Pater Patriae’? Or is it by far more likely simply an honorific to address a spiritual leader of great importance?

And lastly, you’re incoherent. I can hardly identify your line of reasoning.

Pope Justus of Alexandria was an Alias of Justinus Martyr, A Son of Titus Josephus whom makes minor appearences in the Book of Acts and Colossians, his Grandson was Emperor Marcus Aurelius [Pater Patria], he is also the Brother of St John/Peter, titles like “Pope/Pater Patria” are passed to family member to Family member.

 

[Filii_Dei]

Pope Justus of Alexandria was an Alias of Justinus Martyr, A Son of Titus Josephus whom makes minor appearences in the Book of Acts and Colossians, his Grandson was Emperor Marcus Aurelius [Pater Patria], he is also the Brother of St John/Peter, titles like “Pope/Pater Patria” are passed to family member to Family member.

Of course it was only an alias! Because Pope Justus died in 129 while Justin Martyr died in 165. The same year, isn’t it?

And assuming somehow you are correct that Marcus Aurelius was really the son of Pope Justus, how silly I am to forget that titles pass from son to father, instead of from father to son!

I don’t know where you’re getting all this historically inaccurate rubbish from. Your premises are false and completely without basis, and your conclusions don’t even connect to your premises. You’re going to need to give better evidence than unsubstantiated conjecture.

Oh pray, Great Suetonius, tell us humble peasants from whence thou obtains thine prophetic insight, that many aeons of historians seem unable to procure!

 

[Theophorus]

Pope Justus of Alexandria was an Alias of Justinus Martyr, A Son of Titus Josephus whom makes minor appearences in the Book of Acts and Colossians, his Grandson was Emperor Marcus Aurelius [Pater Patria], he is also the Brother of St John/Peter, titles like “Pope/Pater Patria” are passed to family member to Family member.

Although this is taking things off topic, do you have any evidence for this?
As since Pope Justus of Alexandria is believed to have died round A.D 129 and Justin Martyr round A.D 165, that is highly unlikely. Or did Justin Martyr become patriarch of Alexandria at 15?

 

[Suetonius]

Although this is taking things off topic, do you have any evidence for this?
As since Pope Justus of Alexandria is believed to have died round A.D 129 and Justin Martyr round A.D 165, that is highly unlikely. Or did Justin Martyr become patriarch of Alexandria at 15?

Death of Pope Alexandria is Correct, not that of Justinus

Pope Justus of Alexandria was born in 76AD, died 129AD and died around the age of “53”, seems about Right. The Full Correct name of “Justus of Alexandria” is “Titus Flavius Justus” a Son of “Titus Flavius Josephus”, and Brother of St Peter and St John{Pope Clemens), and One and Same with Justus Marytr, whom also makes minor appearence in Book of Acts and Colosseum.

 

[crazzeto]

A title does not an office make. Yes the terminology “Pope” dates from that time period, the office has always been there. The See of Peter was established in Rome when Saints Peter and Paul traveled there, the Bishop of Rome, by tradition is Peter’s successor.

The modern term “Pope” is dervied from the Latin for “Father”. It was a popular name given to the Bishop of Rome.