to all Traditional Catholics

[I_Believe]

The NCW is a heretical movement. Anything that denies the Priesthood of the new testament is heretical. We do not need the Pope now to tell us this because the Popes of the past have told us this. One of dauphins posts details the canons of trent that show this.

As for Popes making mistakes in disciplinary and other matters that do not touch on infallibility is of course possible. See St Paul rebuking St Peter in the new testament.

There is an article from last spring on the Remnant’s site about the NCW. I’d never heard of them before I read the article. They don’t appear orthodox.

remnantnewspaper.com/Archives/archive-2008-0430-remnant_news_watch.htm

 

[Dauphin]

However, most of the “doctrine” that the last pope is acccused of contradicting was never presented ex cathedra. If speaking ex cathedra is the standard that it is applied, then contradiction is far less likely since such statements are a rarity. The accusations made against the Holy father, past and present, of contradicting Church doctrine are not contradictions that the Holy Father recognized, or any Church Curia recognized. The only ones who see a contradiction are those who are looking for one.

This simply isn’t true.

Quanta Cura, for instance, invokes the “full apostolic authority” of the Pope in condemning religious liberty.

The contradiction with Dignitatis Humanae is manifest.

Some traditionalists (not me), will argue that other teachings such as modern ecumenism and salvation outside the Church directly contradict what the Church previously taught definitively. They always make recourse to the Papal Magisterium or Ecumenical Councils, which contain authoritative teaching.

 

[pnewton]

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The contradiction with Dignitatis Humanae is manifest.

So you say. When and where has the Catholic Church declated these cotradictions manifest?

 

[Jo_Benedict]

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This thread is now closed. Thanks to all who participated in the discussion.