To and From The Catholic church

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I had my born-again experience in December, 1996, at the age of 38, with the realization that no amount of religion, church attendance or good works could save me from my sin – only the blood of Jesus could do that. In addition, I found that I had developed an insatiable hunger for God’s word, and a desire to know Him in a more personal way. My journey out of the Catholic Church led me to a deeper faith and to a church where questions and discussion are encouraged, and there are opportunities to grow spiritually, both individually and with other Christians.
Do you know that our souls are washed in the Blood of Jesus at Confession, and that we receive His Body and Blood in the Eucharist? what you called religion or church attendance is actually opportunities for God to work in our souls. He is the one who works in the Sacraments, and they ALL go back to what He did on the Cross. If Jesus had not died for us, we would not have the Sacraments…they are gifts to us from God. I used to be a Protestant and I found that there’s much more grace in the Catholic Church, I just didn’t undersand it before.

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Amen …It’s a journey…Do you still regard your protestant friends as equal in Christ or do you see them as separated and lacking all that Christ has for them ? Thanks God Bless…
I think that your question is kind of confusing…

as individuals, I see them as equals.

but I don’t view Protestantism as equal to Catholicism, because there are no Sacraments and Protestants are in imperfect union with the Church.

that doesn’t mean I see myself as superior though, there are many Protestants who are better Christians and love God more than I do. But they are lacking certain graces and are being taught incorrect theology, through no fault of their own.

God bless
 
😦 may the Lord have mercy on us all!
We need each other so much, all of us…
Thanks for a good comments…I’ve had/have protestant and catholics as neighbors who are both types…wheat and tares are mixed among us all…Scariest place of all are those who are luke warm in their faith …peace to you dear sister in Chrsit…
 
Unlike Priscilla Ann,I came the other direction … I grew up Protestant … I knew for some time that the Church held the fullness of the Christian faith …

A study of history can only lead one to with Catholic or Orthodox if one is convinced that Christianity is the Truth and that Jesus is the Messiah, the Second Person of the Trinity, God and Man who gave His life for the Salvation of the world …

Priscilla Ann left because she thought the Chruch taught other then that we are saved byt he Blood of Christ … how very sad because I have not found any place where the Chhurch teaches that we are saved by attending Mass … Scripture and the Church do teach that a faith without works is a dead faith, one that does not reflect the Christian “Way of Life” …

Scripture … I have read scripture from beginning to end - many times and studied scripture … I have a masters in theology … and I find a reachness rooted in scripure embodied in the Catholic faith … The liturgy is all about the scriptures …

I am deeply greatful to the Christan faith that was nurtured in me in my youth in family and Church … I am saddened by the anti - catholic leanings of some of my family - some that exists to this very day … but I learned to first love Christ and the Scriptures in protestant faith … but due to family circumstances I was able to see the dis-unity and relativism of “Truth” within the fractured christian community … a study of history lead me home and I have not regretted the journey of faith … not the beginnings nor where I am …

The fullness of all that it means to be Christian is rooted in the early Church - in the controversies and how they worked out through the first couple of centuries … I hear St Paul tell me to Eat and Drink while discerning Jesus in the Bread and Wine - broken and blessed - a participating in the Life and Death of my Lord … this is not a mere symbolic action …

I desire to follow Christ and Christ is not divided, Chrst is One, Christ is Life and Truth … I will do as Jesus commanded … I will Eat and Drink the True Bread from Heaven so that I might hve life within me …
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I converted to the CC along time ago, about 1991 from Protestantism. I have never been at rest in my soul about the decision to convert to the Catholic Church and I have been back and forth many, many times. It took me no time to believe the CC doctrines and no time to not believe the non Biblical ones, I am still not convinced the CC is the Church.

I am still very unsure and confused and to be quite honest I wish I never thought of or heard of the Catholic Church. Right now I am contemplating leaving again after I hear from the vortex that the Bishop conference is practically in bed with the Democratic party and I am a Creationist which seems at odds with the Catholic Church as it seems from this site. So there you have it I am a staunch Conservative and Creationist and I don’t think the CC has room for the likes of me.
most Catholics I know are very conservative… and the Catholic Church is always speaking against Obama and abortion and all the rest. Im a conservative too… also I’m a creationist as well; the Church lets us decide between creationism or theistic evolution because there’s no dogma on how exactly God made the world, or if Genesis is literal or metaphorical in places. The Church only says we have to believe that Adam and Eve were real people, that sin is real, and that God made the souls directly.

as for doctrines, - I’ve found that all of them are in the Bible. I’m a convert from Protestantism btw… but if something is not seen that clearly in the Bible, - well Scripture tells us we should accept what the Apostles passed down through written OR spoken word. That includes Sacred Tradition. It also says that the Church is the “pillar and the foundation of truth”… only the Church has the correct interpretation of Scripture; Protestant churches each interpret in their own way. I think that it would be a good idea to research Church teachings more and read some apologetics 🙂 have you ever read Scott Hahn?
I believe if one went by Scripture alone one would flee as fast as on could from the CC, there is much in the CC not in Scripture.
actually it was Scripture that lead me TO the Catholic Church.

Protestants ignore many parts of Scripture, like about the Eucharist, and about Peter being “the rock”.

If you’re doubting the Papacy, here’s a great article that links it to Isaiah 22:
catholic-pages.com/pope/hahn.asp

and this is a great website as well, that goes through different topics in Catholicism and how they relate to Scripture:
davidmacd.com/catholic/index2.htm
look up the ones on the Papacy, Peter being the rock, Mary, the Eucharist…

if you’re wondering about salvation, these articles are good:
catholic.com/library/salvation.asp

really I’ve found that it’s Protestantism that’s unbiblical!

God bless:)
 
Do you know that our souls are washed in the Blood of Jesus at Confession, and that we receive His Body and Blood in the Eucharist? what you called religion or church attendance is actually opportunities for God to work in our souls. He is the one who works in the Sacraments, and they ALL go back to what He did on the Cross. If Jesus had not died for us, we would not have the Sacraments…they are gifts to us from God. I used to be a Protestant and I found that there’s much more grace in the Catholic Church, I just didn’t undersand it before.

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I understand the sacramental system of the Catholic Church just fine, my dear!
 
I’m a bit confused by your post but I will try to answer. I was born into a Catholic family, baptized, received Holy Communion, Confession, Confirmation, Matrimony, even the Sacrament of the Sick.

I fell away from the Church when I was in college. Some of it was rebellion against my parents who IMHO did not provide a good example of what Catholics should be. Some of it was being forced to attend Mass, no matter how boring it was. Some of it was because I didn’t understand transubstantiation and therefore didn’t accept it. Some of it was because I went to a Catholic elementary school and I was treated very cruelly by some of the sisters there. Some of it; actually most of it, was because of laziness. I didn’t want to go to Mass. I didn’t want to read the Bible or try to learn anything about any faith, although there were exceptions. On and off I read a bit about other faiths. I liked the Quakers because women were treated as equals. I can’t remember any other faiths I investigated but I know there were a few. It didn’t form a large part of my life.

When I was writing my Master’s thesis I had a panic attack and I immediately started praying the Hail Mary. I don’t know why. Maybe I grabbed onto some part of my childhood that had given me comfort long ago. I knew I was dying and that is where I turned. But once the panic attack was over I fell back into my old habits.

After several years of acting this way I asked God to show me what the correct faith was. I told Him that I would go to the nearest Catholic Church and to please send me a sign. I went to the church and there was a hearse in front of me. That was my answer (or so I believed) and I didn’t return to the Church. One more thing I should mention is that I don’t think I ever really investigated any Protestant church. Something deep inside me was still holding onto that Catholic faith.

I decided to become a Christian. That’s all - nice and simple and easy to just go by Christ’s two commandments. It sounded good to me. In fact I believed it sounded good to everyone I asked about it, including priests. Nobody ever contradicted me. I was smug. I was so smart.

One day I went to see a monk at the request of my sister (who was Catholic and had never fallen away - I didn’t think she was very intelligent about religion). After I talked to the monk for a long time I suddenly realized that I wasn’t smart at all and that my sister was far more intelligent than me. I started to study Catholicism.

It took years but once I accepted that the Catholic Church is the Church founded by Christ there was no argument that could sway me. I have returned to the Church and have been home for about fifteen years now. I will never fall away again. I accept everything the Church teaches. Why would Christ found a Church that would be fallible? This is Christ - this is God!! It doesn’t make sense. I have found nothing but peace and joy with my faith. I have problems in other areas of my life but when I relate them to my faith I again find peace.

I have no doubt whatsoever that the Catholic Church is the correct Church. Sometimes I am so happy to be home that I cry for joy. I’m sorry if that sounds trite or ridiculous, but it is true. When I pray I feel such a strong connection with God. I never even wanted to pray before or I only prayed when I needed something.

I know I am in the true Church and I will defend her to the death and I am not kidding. My faith is the most important thing in my life. I thank God (and my sister) for showing me the way back home.

Pax,
Christina
awesome story Christina!! 😃 🙂
There is nothing deficient in scripture.
I have always thought that God brings folks to different homes for different reasons Some He leads to Catholicism some He leads away.
there’s nothing deficient in Scripture but there are many interpretations that are deficient. We need to find the right interpretation… and that’s in the Church. 🙂
I understand the sacramental system of the Catholic Church just fine, my dear!
then you know that Jesus is physically present in every Catholic Church and gives us His graces through the Sacraments 👍
 
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peary1:
People just don’t up and leave the Church for no reason.
Agree with this and that for most people who leave the decision to leave is not easy and can be gut wretching.

Also at times I wonder if some people tell us the full story of why they leave - that sometimes they give one of the reasons but do not give the full story, especially to those who will interrogate them if they we do or those who will not understand. Also sometimes people do not want to know the full reason or the person does not know it themselves.
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peary1:
It doesn’t matter what age people are, if they leave the Church they do it either because they do not agree with some of its moral teachings, the Eucharist, or they had been engaged in a behavior that the Church does not accept.
These reasons would certainly cover a large number of people who leave a church.

Another, and in the long term the main reason, I left a Protestant Church after finding out in a Trinity Day sermon what the concept of the Trinity meant. Somehow I had never understood it up to then (and I’m sure I must have been told about it and certainly sang about it.) After a lot of wrestling with it I left.

But maybe there was a reason behind this and it falls in with being engaged in a behaviour that churches say they accept (but often don’t) and that is being curious and wanting to find out the answer for myself.

Maybe I was just born a heretic - if you take this to mean to think for yourself.
 
awesome story Christina!! 😃 🙂

there’s nothing deficient in Scripture but there are many interpretations that are deficient. We need to find the right interpretation… and that’s in the Church. 🙂

then you know that Jesus is physically present in every Catholic Church and gives us His graces through the Sacraments 👍
Could you give me the definition of the word “graces”? I don’t find the word “graces” anywhere in scripture. Or do you mean “grace”, which is **God’s unmerited **favor? “Grace” comes through faith (Ephesians 2:8-9), not through rituals (sacraments).
 
Could you give me the definition of the word “graces”? I don’t find the word “graces” anywhere in scripture. Or do you mean “grace”, which is **God’s unmerited **favor? “Grace” comes through faith (Ephesians 2:8-9), not through rituals (sacraments).
There are lots of words that are not in Scripture, but we still believe them. Trinity, comes to mind.
 
Could you give me the definition of the word “graces”? I don’t find the word “graces” anywhere in scripture. Or do you mean “grace”, which is **God’s unmerited **favor? “Grace” comes through faith (Ephesians 2:8-9), not through rituals (sacraments).
Graces are the Uncreated Energies of God.

orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/non-orthodox_ch2.pdf - taken from this link is the following quote:

"The Orthodox view of Grace is quite distinct from that of the West, especially as
developed by the Scholastics from seeds in the theology of the Blessed Augustine. As
the Orthodox theologian Vladimir Lossky explains:
[The] theology of the Eastern Church distinguishes in God the three hypostases, the
nature or essence, and the energies. The Son and the Holy Spirit are, so to say, personal
processions, the energies, natural processions. The energies are inseparable from the
nature, and the nature is inseparable from the three Persons. These distinctions are of
great importance for the Eastern Church’s conception of mystical life:…
3) The distinction between the essence and the energies, which is fundamental for
the Orthodox doctrine of grace, makes it possible to preserve the real meaning of Saint
Peter’s words “partakers of the divine nature” [2 Peter 1:4]. The union to which we are
called is neither hypostatic—as in the case of the human nature of Christ—nor
substantial, as in that of the three divine Persons: it is union with God in His energies,
or union by grace making us participate in the divine nature, without our essence
becoming thereby the essence of God. In deification [theosis] we are by grace (that is to
say, in the divine energies), all that God is by nature, save only identity of nature . . .
according to the teaching of Saint Maximus. We remain creatures while becoming God
by grace, as Christ remained God in becoming man by the Incarnation.10
Eastern tradition knows no such supernatural order between God and the created
world, adding, as it were, to the latter a new creation. It recognizes no distinction, or
rather division, save that between the created and the uncreated. For [the] eastern
tradition the created supernatural has no existence. That which western theology calls
by the name of the supernatural signifies for the East the uncreated—the divine energies
ineffably distinct from the essence of God. . . . The act of creation established a
relationship between the divine energies and that which is not God. . . . [However,] the
divine energies in themselves are not the relationship of God to created being, but they
do enter into relationship with that which is not God , and draw the
world into existence by the will of God.11"
 
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GraceDK:
My heart just cries when I read such stories… about people like you who had a religion, a belief which was a relationship with the church, but not a relationship with the Lord who is Everything…

How can Catholics go to church all their life and not have a personal relationship with Jesus!!! (I guess thats what you mean by saved).What an absolute poverty among us and much to our shame! Please forgive those who failed to testify.
This can happen without there being any failure to testify. Guess there are as many reasons as there are people for whom this happens. But even years after leaving a Protestant Church) I still do not know the reason.

My relationship was always with the first person of the Trinity (God the Father).
Originally Posted by Hisalone:
There is nothing deficient in scripture. I have always thaought that God brings folks to different homes for different reasons Some He leads to Catholicism some He leads away.
Reply by peary:
So, in effect, what you are saying is, we are predestined for either Heaven or Hell. Those who remain in Christ’s Church, or those He leads to it are saved; those He leads away from Christ’s Church are condemned.
No. don’t think that it what peary1 is saying – I would describe it as different courses for different horses.
 
Hiskid1973;6045055 Did you have to deal with that guilt trip I hear some saying about your walking away from Jesus…? ? Thanks [/QUOTE said:
Walking away from Jesus, how insulting.
 
Wow 38 years…When in all that time did you feel you had a conversion experience? Did you have to deal with that guilt trip I hear some saying about your walking away from Jesus…? What caused the change ? Thanks
“Walking away from Jesus”, how insulting. Jesus Christ founded the Catholic Church. Catholic=“regular Christian”
 
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