To Confirm or Not?

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Also, it isn’t your fault those kids left the program because you were teaching the truth. It is their fault, their own choice, to reject the Truth. If they think they are smarter than the Holy Spirit, than we can’t do anything but pray. You simply acted as a disciple of Christ. We have a very clear and direct command from God,“Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 16Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.” Mark 16:15-16
 
To Confirm or Not to Confirm-that is the question 😦 that many of us had to struggle with at one time or another. We have not always had the best instructors for our children in the years past. I sometimes wondered if it would not be better that our children were confirmed at an earlier age like I was so that they would have the graces to strengthen them in their faith for those times when they would be attacked for their faith in public high school. Anyway, for those who would like a good refresher or motivator about the sacrament of Confirmation, here is a good homily from Archbishop Sartain at the Confirmation Mass earlier this year. It is something to “fan the flames”
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Homily starts at around 6:16 (after the gospel) and he also has a good message at the end …“Confirmation is not the same thing as graduation”
 
They brag that they don’t attend Mass (even when Mass is right before the class) and have a very poor understanding of Catholicism…many of them do not attend the classes (like come to 50% of the classes) we only meet about 10 times thru the year.
We take attendance and require them to have Mass cards they need to get stamped. I would recommend telling them that if they miss too many classes and Masses they will have to make it up at an all day Saturday retreat. That would of course require you to plan and run an all day Saturday make up retreat.
My question is this: Should they all be Confirmed and leave it to the Holy Spirit to enrich them as they grow older? Give it to God and let the Fruits of the Holy Spirit do his thing?
That’s what happened to me. I wasn’t ready to receive Confirmation, but I did anyway and the Holy Spirit came to me years later. I remember my mom telling me, “You made your Confirmation when you were a teen, but you’ve now received/accepted the Holy Spirit.”
Or should only the “believers” or practicing Catholics be Confirmed?
I would follow the rules of your pastor. He’s in charge of the parish. That being said, I would recommend encouraging your students to make a decision: either commit to the program whether for yourself or for your parents or tell your parents you’re just not ready.
I got into lots of trouble last year because I told the kids it was a Mortal sin to miss Mass without a good reason o. I since have backed down on what I teach and pretty much just follow what I am given and avoid any mention of sin. Father feels that might offend kids.
That’s a little silly, but he does have a point. It’s important to explain what sin is and how it can be forgiven. It’s a major premise of Catholicism. You know, forgiveness of sins. Don’t lecture them about sin, evangelize them about Reconciliation. And bring in speakers who’ve had a troubled past, but now live the Catholic life. Lots of saints did that. This is important because the teens may not understand these things now, but one day they will and they should know that one can always return the the Catholic Church.
I know its not my decision to make but…Can you guys give me some advice? I keep praying but I just don’t know what to do. I really like the kids and I don’t want anyone to leave the faith…
Try breaking up the class into several activities so they don’t get bored and/or tired. Remember these are teens and their lives are filled with school, homework, friends, girlfriends/boyfriends, family, extracurricular activities, personal interests, and sometimes after school jobs. We start with a game, then a small lecture, then some bible readings and end with music for prayer. We meet twice a month (not including the youth groups they are required to attend on Fridays), the first class is Adoration with their sponsors and the second class is the lecture I just described. This is all for the second year of Confirmation. For the first year we broke the teens up into small groups and read through the Gospel of Luke in our small groups, so you’ll need extra Bible instructors to help you.

Hope some of this helps.
 
Wow. Just wow.
a few things jump out at me.
1)Someone suggested taking attendance at Mass. ??? You can’t hijack people for Mass and believe that you are helping them in their spiritual lives. This kind of thing ensures that kids will leave the faith.
  1. You can’t offend people with the truth. They can use it as an excuse. But your obligation is to instruct them in the truth. Missing Mass is a mortal sin. If they have no regard for the state of their souls by the time they are in High school, then catechists have failed long before they stood in front of you. Please do not water down the teachings of the Church. Surely the pastor can understand that. there’s a way to deliver the message that is instructive, not damning.
  2. People have to cooperate with God in reception of the Sacraments. If you don’t believe in the real Presence for example, you receive none of the graces. You don’t just go and get oil smeared on your head, and WHAM! You’re filled with the Holy Spirit. They are sacraments, not magic. If they are not ready, or not properly disposed, don’t Confirm them. You and they gain nothing. It should not be a cover your bases thing.
  3. If you are using the real LifeTeen curriculum, then you already know that they recommend teaching in 10 minute increments. Spaced out with activities, small group discussion, prayer, video clips etc. You have to have LOTS of planning for every session and everything laid out as to who does what.
I wish you all the best, but honestly, until you get some support (REAL support) from the parish and leadership, I don’t know that anything will change.
 
If a person is willing to be confirmed then let him. It shouldn’t matter how much he practices his religion or not. If the kids are confirmed as teenagers, they have something to fall back on when they finally have kids and start practicing again. If they aren’t confirmed then it’s just another reason not to return. I think the church prefers to confirm before marriage, so that’s another reason. It is a sacrament to add grace to the person which is what these kids need. Kids really should be confirmed when they are seven and before first communion. However, the bishops in the US, anyway, delay it in hopes of keeping the kids in church longer. For better or worse, it opens up the situation of unwilling participants. Maybe it’s best to let God worry about that and confirm them if they are willing.
 
Confirmation is not a check box on the Catholic membership card.
If that’s all it is, no wonder there are so few dedicated Catechists, and so many adult Catholics that have no idea what they believe or if they believe.
I’m out.
 
=sscott;12438169]If a person is willing to be confirmed then let him. It shouldn’t matter how much he practices his religion or not. If the kids are confirmed as teenagers, they have something to fall back on when they finally have kids and start practicing again. If they aren’t confirmed then it’s just another reason not to return. I think the church prefers to confirm before marriage, so that’s another reason. It is a sacrament to add grace to the person which is what these kids need. Kids really should be confirmed when they are seven and before first communion. However, the bishops in the US, anyway, delay it in hopes of keeping the kids in church longer. For better or worse, it opens up the situation of unwilling participants. Maybe it’s best to let God worry about that and confirm them if they are willing.
DEAR FRIEND IN CHRIST,

Of COURSE it does:rolleyes:

No where in the entire bible can one find support for the position you articulate:shrug:

The advise I gave in my previous post is very solid:)

God Bless you,

Patrick
 
@PJM- How can it possibly matter if someone is practicing their faith before they receive confirmation? A bay can be confirmed. In the Eastern Catholic churches all babies are confirmed at baptism.Although it doesn’t seem to happen all the time in the US, a child received into the church at age seven is supposed to receive all three initiation sacraments at once; baptism, confirmation and communion. Even if they went to RCIC, they are only practicing in a childlike way without any real understanding. Confirmation is not what the person, does but what God does. Even if a person is not interested or not practicing, they may still receive some grace from confirmation. Confirmation, while not required, is preferred before marriage. Not getting all the sacraments in while the church still has some connection with person will lead them away later. How many teenagers do you think have a real commitment to their faith. I would say that most are confirmed because Mom and Dad said they have to be or else.
 
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