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Truthfully, I often wish I could accept the totality of Catholicism, it is my mother’s faith, and was my Nana’s faith, two of the most important and influential people in my life, and I was lay baptized by my Nana when I was born. I love the sense of community, I enjoy attending mass, there are many parts of the faith I can fully embrace, and I will be raising my future children in the church as my fiance is Catholic. But I have a few major, likely insurmountable, issues. I have strong values and convictions, but what I believe is moral and right is not always in line with the doctrines of the church (let’s say I’m extremely liberal and leave it at that). I also don’t believe in the literal truth of the Bible, namely a few rather key points… Honestly, I wish I could, but belief isn’t something you can force no matter how much you want to. I also don’t believe there is a single path to God and see validity in the vast majority of religions. So while the Catholic faith is dear to my heart and I’m perfectly comfortable with my children growing up with it, to claim that I truly accepted all of it and officially convert would be insincere and dishonest.
 
Sciryuda,
I can identify with some of what you say above. I was raised Catholic but then wandered for many years. If I may offer something for thought - not pressuring you at all, but just sharing my own experience…

What I found, as I was drawn back to the Church, was that the more I made Love the center of things, the more I saw that the Church’s teachings made sense.
I realize that this might sound strange - we all hope that we think and try to work from a foundation of Love - but as I really pondered and developed the idea of Love being the core and center, so many things have fallen into place and I found myself right back home in the Catholic Church.

For the Biblical reference on the centrality of Love to everything else, note these passages:
1John 4:7-87 Beloved, let us love one another; for love is of God, and he who loves is born of God and knows God. 8 He who does not love does not know God; for God is love.

Mt 22:36-40 36
“Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And He said to him, " You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.' 38 "This is the great and foremost commandment. 39 "The second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 “On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.”

John 13:34-35 “34 A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. 35 By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

1 Cor 13:1-131 If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3 If I give away all I have, and if I deliver my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing.
4 Love is patient and kind; love is not jealous or boastful; 5 it is not arrogant or rude. Love does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; 6 it does not rejoice at wrong, but rejoices in the right. 7 Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
8 Love never ends; as for prophecies, they will pass away; as for tongues, they will cease; as for knowledge, it will pass away. 9 For our knowledge is imperfect and our prophecy is imperfect; 10 but when the perfect comes, the imperfect will pass away. 11 When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became a man, I gave up childish ways. 12 For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall understand fully, even as I have been fully understood. 13 So faith, hope, love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love.
Truly, if God is Love; if Love is the the core of the law and the Prophets; if it is by love that we show our discipleship; if Love is greater than Faith and Hope - Then all of the Church’s teachings on faith and morals need to be founded upon this same Love (Agape).

Like I said, the more I pondered on this and the more I made Love - God’s Love - the center of my own life, the more sense the Church’s teachings made.

Peace
James
 
My main obstacle was all the anti-Catholic propaganda (whore of Babylon, persecutor of saints, etc ). I found out how absolutely stupid these claims are when I found Jerusalem was a whore and about the origins of the Babylonian Talmud. Reading what the early Church believed, I realized Protestantism is based on error and hubris. Calling your own interpretations that of the Holy Spirit is very arrogant to me, especially when there are so many denominations. Scripture and early writings show that the Holy Spirit is guiding the Church, not individuals.
 
Hey all, I said a while back that I was trying to meet with a priest. I just back from the meeting. I am happy to say it went well, he cleared up a few things for me (and my personal view of communion is also, apparently, in line with the Church). I still have a few questions but he said he had a few books I could read and that he’d give them to me next time I was around.

Just a slight update.
 
Hey all, I said a while back that I was trying to meet with a priest. I just back from the meeting. I am happy to say it went well, he cleared up a few things for me (and my personal view of communion is also, apparently, in line with the Church). I still have a few questions but he said he had a few books I could read and that he’d give them to me next time I was around.

Just a slight update.
Good to hear. 👍👍

Peace
James
 
Hey all, I said a while back that I was trying to meet with a priest. I just back from the meeting. I am happy to say it went well, he cleared up a few things for me (and my personal view of communion is also, apparently, in line with the Church). I still have a few questions but he said he had a few books I could read and that he’d give them to me next time I was around.

Just a slight update.
So good to hear. 😃 If you have any questions we could help you with, just start a thread for each of them and we’ll try to get you the answers. Welcome to the journey!
 
I’m catholic.but I was raised by a cultural catholic parents, whom i have no recollection of them supporting the church or going to reconciliation. I had an example in my grandmother who was devout and a beautiful person. She had extreme patience, understanding, and rarely did she pass judgement on others.

I walked away from the church as a teen. There was lots going on in the 80’s. Word of the sex abuse scandal, the ‘sexual revolution’, our schools Catholic education being very poor. I bought into the domesticated Christian views of if I am a good person, good enough…but…

I made some very bad choices in my life. At a time when I was really seeking, I felt that the Catholic church wouldn’t have me, so I sought for comfort in the wrong things. I spent a lot of time lost and wandering… 20 years or so. But the pull never stopped.

Now, I am back. What had kept me away was a big part ignorance. Letting myself be taught about the faith by those who didn’t know it 🤷 and fear and pride.

I knew I wanted to go back for probably 9 years or so but I had to deal with my own screwed up mentality, pride and fears. There were impediments to deal with. To deal with them, I’d need to speak of them, and I just wasn’t ready. Pride kept me away. And then there was the thought of confession. I had gained the mentality, that it wasn’t any one’s business. That if I prayed on it, good enough…yet, I knew it wasn’t.

But sometimes one needs to be hit up side the head to get it… The one thing I was running from was the one thing I needed, the Catholic church. The thing that had held me back for years once that was realized was the fear of confession, ended up being the thing that brought me back, fully.

School of hard knocks… I graduated with honors.

I started going to Mass regularly, sitting quietly in the pew, sliding out the side doors after Mass, essentially invisible. During Advent, there was notice of a penitential service… the seed was planted. I went to the penitential service on a whim as there would be 13 priests and I could go to some one who’d never see me again, therefore no one at our parish would know how awful I really am… it didn’t turn out that way, it ended up with a priest that i respect immensely, the one person I’d have rather not had, really really didn’t want to do it, but if I’d have walked out that day, everyone would have seen me do so, and then it would have been awkward, I think this was pride working for good this time. It was hard to do, it wasn’t anonymous, we sat face to face, I struggled hard with it. There was a humility in that experience that I hadn’t expected and never experienced before. He was exactly who I needed to see that night, despite my own preferences at the time. He walked me through the process. He was so kind, patient and non-judgmental.

I’ll never forget it how I felt. As I was leaving, he stood up, put his hand on my arm to stop me, and, this seems totally odd, through my winter jacket and I live in the great white north, so it’s a heavy jacket, I shouldn’t have felt anything except the weight of his hand, but I felt the heat from his hand like it had been through a sleeve of a blouse, and he had such a look of compassion and concern, I would have started crying if i hadn’t been already. He had stopped me to suggest I make an appointment with him at the office and we’d deal with some things to get me moving forward. It was such a little thing, yet, I can STILL feel that touch on my arm, it was a very moving experience, that small act of concern and compassion. I know I’m crazy, I must have been a real wreck…lol

I didn’t know, that night, if I would make an appointment but I found myself calling the next day, and he returned my call a few days later and within the week we’d had our first meeting. We’ve had a few, and all impediments have been dealt with. I never assumed that things would go my way, I did a lot of praying on the matter. But it did happen, praise the Lord!

The long and short of it all… is I held back because of a lack of understanding the healing for the sacrament of reconciliation… yet it was my submission to the whispering call to go to confession that started the healing, and now I’m back, with many things yet to work through, and much to learn, but if I could get through the last year, I can learn and work through many things to come.

I still don’t like going to confession… or rather, I don’t like how I feel waiting to go to confession, or how I feel telling my confession, but the weight that is lifted afterward, is such an amazing gift. I am pretty sure I will always struggle with doing so, I can only pray it becomes easier to do.

And despite my best efforts to NOT have a regular confessor, I do. :rolleyes: We have 3 priests who rotate, yet, I’ve only ever had one. Think it’s time to become quiet and listen to what I’m being told.
 
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