Totally Out of the Loop: What's the Problem with Pope Paul VI?

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phil19034 said:
For example: Fulton Sheen surely has a cult following etc His process is stalled because two diocese are suing one another in civil court over his body.
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While Sheen was alive, he had a fairly popular television program back in the day- in the days when broadcast stations were licensed in the public interest and had to devote a portion of their time to religious and other public service programs. That’s why EWTN only started in the modern age- in earlier times, you could see Sunday Mass or a protestant sermon on Sunday morning on your regular commercial stations.

But I don’t think that popularity is the same as a cult following.

BTW, there were a number of local guys on the radio/TV as well. Here in Pittsburgh, Fr. James R. Cox had his daily mass at Old St. Patrick’s on WJAS for decades and he was quite active
 
Gotta disagree with you there. The Catholic Hour and Life Is Worth Living had really sizeable audiences and continue to influence people even now. He reached far more than local markets alone. If he doesn’t have a cult following, I can’t imagine how one could argue that Paul VI did.
 
Augustinian said:
But I don’t think that popularity is the same as a cult following.
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A cult following means people pray to him for his intercession. And many do pray to him. But also, many fans of his do not pray to him. When I said cult following, I’m not referring to his popularity, but to the people who pray for his intercession.
 
gracepoole said:
Gotta disagree with you there. The Catholic Hour and Life Is Worth Living had really sizeable audiences and continue to influence people even now. He reached far more than local markets alone. If he doesn’t have a cult following, I can’t imagine how one could argue that Paul VI did.
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Yeap, Bishop Sheen received an Emmy!!!
 
Augustinian said:
in earlier times, you could see Sunday Mass or a protestant sermon on Sunday morning on your regular commercial stations
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Note: I would just like to point out that TODAY you can still watch Sunday morning mass on the Philadelphia ABC station (which is network owned & operated). Granted, it’s a 5:30 AM mass filmed live at a Philadelphia Parish, but the point is it’s still aired. And they still rebroadcast it over the airwaves on their digital 2nd channel two more times on each Sunday.
 
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phil19034 said:
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Augustinian:
in earlier times, you could see Sunday Mass or a protestant sermon on Sunday morning on your regular commercial stations
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Note: I would just like to point out that TODAY you can still watch Sunday morning mass on the Philadelphia ABC station (which is network owned & operated). Granted, it’s a 5:30 AM mass filmed live at a Philadelphia Parish, but the point is it’s still aired. And they still rebroadcast it over the airwaves on their digital 2nd channel two more times on each Sunday.
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Yeah, Sunday Mass from the cathedral in my city is available on local television. The same is true for my hometown.
 
gracepoole said:
I find Sheen’s case so sad. He was once a bishop in my diocese and my pastor was ordained by him. He had a HUGE impact on my pastor and therefore on my parish. (Note that my diocese is not one of the two disputing control over his body.) 😧
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Oh, that’s been resolved. The cause for his sainthood can now continue, according to his niece.
 
It’s likely there are a ton of other Popes in heaven but no one has pushed their canonization process.
I’m rooting for St Pope Leo XIII.

I’d actually like to see more lay people canonized, but I’m aware of the reasons they often aren’t, basically because it’s harder to find continued support for a lay person’s cause as opposed to a founder of a religious order or a Pope.
 
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That is your opinion that it is exaggeration. According to EWTN, most theologians disagree with you, as I linked above.
 
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