Toxic, negative people?

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so I just recently made a post about what to do when you don’t like people and I got a really great response and a lot great advice ! now I have question about toxic and negative people. I have a certain family member who is extremely toxic, aggressive, negative and self absorbing and its starting to effect me I guess I always had this notion that I needed to be around them anyway because not inviting him over my house when my other family members here wouldn’t be Christ Like, be I have really had enough and its taking a negative toll on me. what should I do??
 
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I have a certain family member who is extremely toxic, aggressive, negative and self absorbing and its starting to effect me
Is this a “narcissistic personality,” or even worse a “malignant narcissist?” You can find good information about such personalities on YouTube.

Malignant narcissists are dangerous. They need to be loved by others, and also need to be “number one” in everything. They will manipulate and lie to achieve their goals. They have no empathy for others.
I have really had enough and its taking a negative toll on me. what should I do??
Sounds like the relationship has abusive overtones and is harming you, psychologically. Create distance. Jesus does not expect you to invite abuse.

Luke 6: 43 - 46

43 For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

44 For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.

45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.
 
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You should set up boundaries on what is or isn’t acceptable behavior and speech and if those boundaries are repetitively not respected you should kindly but assertively not allow this person to come over.

Peace.
 
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Your concern is likely shared by many; it seems to stem from a lack of understanding as to exactly what our responsibilities are to others - in particular, family.

No one is required by the Gospels or the Church to put up with abuse, nor are they required, as a member of a family, to invite another member to an event if that other member is abusive to others (even though possibly not to the one inviting).

There is another part to the problem, however. Depending on the family if “George” of “Martha” is not invited, one may be faced with criticism from one or more other family members. Often, those criticizing because “George” or “Martha” was ostracized are in essence enablers, people who are not able to draw a line of cease and desist. They likely can see the forest, but can’t and won’t see the trees; in short, they will never agree that the troublesome individual needs to be uninvited.

that too can become a problem; and one needs to address it with them, preferably not in a public setting, in charitable but firm language that so and so is not and will not be invited and the enabler is invited to not discuss it further. Sometimes they will get the hint; sometimes they will not (and those tend to be very unpleasant when the back biting starts.

There is an old phrase: " you are born into a family, but you pick your friends". Harsh, but true.
 
Good question.

One the one hand are people who are genuinely abusive, manipulative and so on, by any standard. No one has to put up with such people, and it can be dangerous to do so.

On the secobd hand, I wonder if some folks are too prone to label people as negative or “toxic” who simply disagree (legitimately) with what we say or do or how we live our lives. Or simply, with good reason, aren’t 100÷ putting on a happy face all the time.
 
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this man puts everyone down with his words, he makes the conversation always about him self he is very prideful and we are always on edge with him I am not making these things uo
 
So true about family members that we are not able to chose them…but another way to approach the situation would be like I did…in my family there is an individual that is very rude and unforgiving, etc. I took the psychological method and tried to get to know him and why he was so bitter. He had many problems that evolved from his childhood…his mom and dad divorced and he and his sister never had a stable environment. He grew up with a lack of trust for anyone and projected his bitterness on everyone. I realized that just because an individual is hateful, they could be reflecting past circumstances from their childhood. Maybe, it would be better if we were just “nice” and “understanding” towards everyone because we don’t know what they have been through in their life. This person, just because I talked to him and showed interest in him, is respectful and nice to me. My feelings towards him is genuine, and I pray for him…
 
Probably a narcissistic personality disorder, or even worse, a malignant narcissist.

These poor souls do not have empathy for others, and they pour incredible energy into creating the “perfect persona” for themselves to inhabit. An example of such individuals is to create the “James Bond persona.” They indulge themselves in everything (wine, women, song, sport cars, fine clothing, etc.) and they feel entitled to everything (not particularly thankful). They need to be the center of attention, and they treat other people like objects. They use others, and cast them aside. They often fly into rages because they feel that they are entitled to poor self-control. They make poor spouses because, sooner or later, they feel entitled to indulge an extramarital relationship, or two.

Psychologically, these people do not introspect (all of their energy is poured into creating their persona). They do not self-critique, and they are overly sensitive to criticism by others. They do not respond well to psychotherapy or other psychological interventions. They are disturbed and “stuck.”

Pray for this family member. Typically, they do not have love for others. If you don’t have love, you can’t know God, for God is love. If you don’t have love, you can’t go to heaven, for heaven is love.

Dismal condition. Only prayer may help them.
 
this man puts everyone down with his words, he makes the conversation always about him self he is very prideful and we are always on edge with him I am not making these things uo
Sure I fully accept these things happen - the question is why. With all respect all I know.of you really is words on a computer screen. You may in real life be doing awful thingsthat are the target of legitimate criticism.

And I know one or two folks who in all seriousness can talk at me.for half an hour without drawing breath if I let them, but if I dare to try to interject a single comment about myself will accuse me of being rude in interrupting them and say I am making it all about myself.
 
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Some people are moody, and there may be physical reasons that affect their emotions, and therefore their behavior. If a person isn’t feeling well physically, he or she may become cranky, depressed, angry or other negative moods.

Or, if the person feels devalued or inferior, they may act out and blame others, especially if they are unsuccessful at nearly everything they try. They may be unwilling or incapable of seeing that their own attitude is largely at fault, causing others to not want to be around them or do anything for them.

Some people have unreasonable or unrealistic expectations of others, or of themselves, and rudely respond when these expectations aren’t met to their satisfaction.

Try to find out why this person is acting out. If it’s physical it may also be a medical problem. Suggest they see a doctor to improve their condition and/or manage pain or chronic discomfort.

If there are other factors at play, once you can learn what they are, you might be able to address them in helpful ways, and it may improve the situation.

If not, then all you can do is pray for this person and distance yourself so their behavior doesn’t adversely affect your own mood or personality.
 
Even if someone isn’t “toxic” by any objective standard, there is no need to spend time with anyone you don’t find pleasant company, or with whom you have little common ground.

You shouldn’t be unkind - but you can put some distance between you and set up firm boundaries for those occasions when you do meet.

If they don’t like the new rules they may of course decide not to socialise with you - which is not your problem.

I have a brother with “issues” who regularly sent unkind emails late at night when he was drunk and feeling abusive so I simply blocked his address and said I would not reinstate it until I had some earnest of good behaviour on his part.

He lives, mercifully, several thousand miles away, and I continue to send him news of our wider family, most of whom are also wary of him, but I engage in no personal chat. If he rings I am always pleasant and polite - but crucially willing to hang up immediately if he starts to be rude…It has taken a while, but the message of “no tolerance” is getting through…
 
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