Tradition and Genesis

[Gorgias]

Vatican II again. The scapegoat. The false cause of the distortions in the liturgy and the concerted efforts to create distortions in society and elevate them to “good.” No, that is wrong. The Marketing of Evil began in earnest in the 1970s.

Let’s be honest: the “marketing of evil” wasn’t the Second Vatican Council
(which is what I think you’re saying here). The “marketing of evil” was in the efforts of folks who – attempting to instantiate their pet projects – claimed that their assertions were “in the Spirit of Vatican II”. To a large extent, they were not. They weren’t even close. But, those were the days before the internet, and as a result, folks didn’t have the kind of access to documents that we have now. So, back then, when someone said “Vatican II tells us to do this”, we replied, “well, ok… if you say so.”

The scapegoat isn’t Vatican II. The blame should be laid at the feet of those who misrepresented what the Second Vatican Council actually asserted. Yes – “the liars lied”… and we bought it hook, line, and sinker.

 

[edwest211]

Thank God, not all of us.

 

[Dovekin]

The Marketing of Evil began in earnest in the 1970s.

The “marketing of evil” was in the efforts of folks who – attempting to instantiate their pet projects – claimed that their assertions were “in the Spirit of Vatican II”

Are you two really trying to say the anti-modernist crusade didn’t end when the preliminary schemas were voted down? Or when the antimodernist oath was rescinded in 1967?

I am trying to explain why traditionalists sometimes push a divergent set of unrelated ideas, like anti-evolution, a literalist Genesis, etc. If you have a better explanation than the antimodernist/integralist movements, I am happy to learn about it. Anything other than the denials that the Church ever taught such things, or that we copied it from Protestants.

 

[edwest211]

Protestants again? I never bothered with Protestant thought.

 

[edwest211]

What about them? I worked in a major hospital for over 9 years. I knew the rules. No one was asked about their religion before treatment.