A lot of Catholics cannot understand or accept what the blog and news article explained.wdtprs.com/blog/2017/08/tradition-vocations-it-isnt-rocket-science/#comments
Also in the comments section a link to a great video was posted about a parish as an example…
youtube.com/watch?v=P26jjOCv4PY&feature=youtu.be
why not become a priest and then help bring in orthodoxy?100% true. Stats don’t lie. I’d be a priest right now if I could enter a traditional seminary in my country and minister in my country. I’m sure I’m one of many men who would be priests if the opportunity was available.
The seminaries are seriously deficient. They don’t teach philosophy or theology properly. They don’t teach Latin as they should. I’m not denigrating our priests but most OF priests haven’t been educated properly. I’d be ordained and be a genuine priest, but I’d be seriously lacking in terms of my formation. Plus, the new seminaries don’t adequately prepare men to live celibate lifestyles. I’m basing this opinion on conversations I’ve had with priests and former seminarians. Most European seminaries need a serious overhaul.why not become a priest and then help bring in orthodoxy?
Oops. Meant Anglican Ordinariate.I believe that I’m looking ordinary it, which is traditional, also has quite a few men looking to enter into the ordination process.
Now THAT would be rocket science.why not become a priest and then help bring in orthodoxy?
This is rocket science: you can’t give what you don’t have. Nemo dat quod non habet.Now THAT would be rocket science.
I appreciate the ordinariate but I’m a Catholic of the Roman Rite and I’d want to celebrate the traditional Roman Rite. I’d want to learn Latin (as required by Canon law) and study St. Thomas Aquinas fully. My priestly role model has always been Fulton Sheen. The only way to follow his footsteps would be to enter a traditional seminary. The nearest one to me is Econe but that’s SSPX. That means the only suitable place is Nebraska with the FSSP.Oops. Meant Anglican Ordinariate.
I don’t know how old you are, but I don’t think you are looking at this correctly. You could be part of the solution. Perhaps you could attend seminary in Rome, perhaps your local vocations office would be willing to send you to Rome.The seminaries are seriously deficient. They don’t teach philosophy or theology properly. They don’t teach Latin as they should. I’m not denigrating our priests but most OF priests haven’t been educated properly. I’d be ordained and be a genuine priest, but I’d be seriously lacking in terms of my formation. Plus, the new seminaries don’t adequately prepare men to live celibate lifestyles. I’m basing this opinion on conversations I’ve had with priests and former seminarians. Most European seminaries need a serious overhaul.
I’d also like to add, even if I went to a traditional seminary such as FSSP in Nebraska, I’d not be able to serve the people in my diocese and probably not in my country. I know two other men who felt called to the priesthood but have my opinions. I’m certainly not alone. The priest shortage is manufactured and caused by unorthodox prelates in charge of the seminaries.
Simple; because it has to be his way or the highway. It’s the religious equivalent of if things aren’t how I want, then *I’ll take my ball and go home.why not become a priest and then help bring in orthodoxy?
You’re a clever man. You don’t know who I am, where I live or my life situation. Yet, you’re able to read my mind and my heart to make a massive judgment about my character.Simple; because it has to be his way or the highway. It’s the religious equivalent of if things aren’t how I want, then I’ll take my ball and go home.
“I’d be a priest right now if I could enter a traditional seminary…”- Dempsey1919You’re a clever man. You don’t know who I am, where I live or my life situation. Yet, you’re able to read my mind and my heart to make a massive judgment about my character.
I strongly suggest you think before you make snap judgments about people and their lives. Did you ever consider that I can’t “take my ball” to the nearest seminaries. Did you consider that my potential vocation is to a traditional fraternity such as the FSSP. I’ve discerned for years and I’m guided by a priest!
Think before you start typing! This isn’t a joke! This isn’t a bloody game! This is my life and my soul! I’m the one who’ll have to answer to Our Lord on judgment day! Your comment is disgraceful. You don’t know what you’re talking about! Instead of making impetuous judgments about people you don’t know, maybe you could try praying a Rosary for those of us caught between a rock and a hard place.
What about what the Lord wants? What about serving God? Many seminaries are Catholic in name only. Many seminaries get rid of orthodox seminarians. I personally know people who have been rejected for things like praying the Rosary. Things were improving under JPII and Benedict but there’s been a negative trend under Pope Francis. That’s why men seek out traditional seminaries. There’s a crisis in vocations for a reason. But according to your logic, its because potential seminarians like myself have taken our balls and gone home. You’re either naive or ignorant. I’m inclined to believe the latter based on your judgmental tone.Instead of worrying about whether you get what you want, I will be grateful and thankful for the many obedient priests of my diocese who do what is required of them and who go where the bishop tells them. Being a priest is about serving others, not oneself.
I’m confused, if you are in Europe, what about the original FSSP seminary in Wigratzbad?I appreciate the ordinariate but I’m a Catholic of the Roman Rite and I’d want to celebrate the traditional Roman Rite. I’d want to learn Latin (as required by Canon law) and study St. Thomas Aquinas fully. My priestly role model has always been Fulton Sheen. The only way to follow his footsteps would be to enter a traditional seminary. The nearest one to me is Econe but that’s SSPX. That means the only suitable place is Nebraska with the FSSP.
I agree with your previous comment to a poster here, who clearly doesn’t know what he is talking about, that unqualified advice to someone discerning the priesthood can be potentially damaging and does not take into consideration God’s calling. There are many young men who are called to serve God through the traditional form of Mass - forcing them into a diocesan seminary is contrary to God’s calling. It’s like those called to monastic life.My decision is my own. People are free to disagree but I stand by what I’ve written. There would be no priest shortage if the rectors of seminaries did what they’re supposed to do. The shortage has been manifactured by heterodox prelates. The orthodox, traditional seminaries are thriving. It’s a shame there aren’t more of them. A lot of men can’t go to foreign countries to study for the priesthood. I’m in that category. I would’ve went to my local seminary but it closed down because it was notorious and vocations dried up.
There sure are a lot of *“I want” * stipulations in that sentence. I thought a “calling” went beyond personal desires.I’d want to celebrate the traditional Roman Rite. I’d want to learn Latin (as required by Canon law) and study St. Thomas Aquinas fully.
Nonsense. There has been a priest shortage for centuries. There is a reason why bishops used to appoint priests from religious orders in their diocese as parish pastors; because there weren’t enough diocesan priests to go around. This is one of the reasons why many religious orders lost their identity and simply became absorbed in the local parishes. Vatican II put an end to that but religious orders are still very shy about allowing members to become ordained for fear that they may be appropriated.There would be no priest shortage if the rectors of seminaries did what they’re supposed to do. The shortage has been manifactured by heterodox prelates.
If you can’t bring Mohammed to the mountain, then bring the mountain to Mohammed.A lot of men can’t go to foreign countries to study for the priesthood. I’m in that category. I would’ve went to my local seminary but it closed down because it was notorious and vocations dried up.
Honestly, your posts indicate that your desire to “serve God” all hinge on being able to do it in the way that you want. There have been many priests and religious who started on one path only to find themselves in a place they never dreamt. What is the old joke? *Want to make God laugh? Tell Him your plans.What about serving God?
Sorry, don’t believe it.I personally know people who have been rejected for things like praying the Rosary.
Then I would say that your calling is already settled. You owe a serious duty to your parents. Good luck.…responsibilities to my elderly parents mean I can’t live in the US for 7 years
Actually, this is not true. NO “call” to priesthood (or religious life) is solely one’s own. In the case of secular priesthood, it is a process of mutual discernment, between you and the bishop/diocese to which you apply. In fact, it is a matter of Church teaching that one’s call to ordination is not finalized until the bishop actually lays his hands on you during the rite of ordination. Up until then, everything is tentative. So NEVER say that the decision is your own. It is not–it is at least as much that of the bishop, in the name of the Church.My decision is my own.