Tis_Bearself
Patron
I am having some confusion with the traditional date of this feast. Please note, this thread is ONLY for discussing the traditional date of the feast, not for discussing the theology of/ people’s personal issues with the concept of Mary as Mediatrix (a subject we’ve had a lot of past threads on already).
I usually follow the Catholic Culture website liturgical calendar for USA, and for June 8, it says that according to the 1962 Missal of St. Pope John XXIII was the feast of Mary, Mediatrix. I’ve found a couple of other traditional websites also saying June 8 was the traditional day for this feast in “some places”.
However, I’ve found other traditional websites that don’t mention this feast at all, or don’t mention it as being on June 8. So far in my research I’ve been able to find a source saying that Pope Benedict XV in the 1920s established it, at least for Belgium (which was pushing for it), on November 8 and later it got moved to May 31. When the 1962 calendar got revised after Vatican II, the feast was dropped, apparently.
(As a side note, I found that the Philippines had a different date for this feast associated with an alleged apparition that’s apparently unapproved as of now, so I won’t discuss it further. I’ve also read that a number of religious orders were celebrating it even before Pope Benedict XV put it in the calendar, and that the orders all presumably had dates of their own for the feast, for example the Dominicans seem to have had it on various days and finally ended up with it on May 8. )
Normally when a feast has been moved around in the pre-Vatican 2 calendars, I can look up old revisions of the calendar and see when it moved/ which Pope moved it, but I’m drawing a blank here for some reason. The calendars I can find don’t seem to be showing this feast.
So my question is:
How did the feast of Mary, Mediatrix which Pope Benedict XV put in place for Belgium on November 8, end up getting moved to June 8? Who moved it, was there a reason why it moved, etc. And where are the “some places” it was celebrated on June 8? Was USA one of them?
Thanks for any light anyone can shed on this.
I usually follow the Catholic Culture website liturgical calendar for USA, and for June 8, it says that according to the 1962 Missal of St. Pope John XXIII was the feast of Mary, Mediatrix. I’ve found a couple of other traditional websites also saying June 8 was the traditional day for this feast in “some places”.
However, I’ve found other traditional websites that don’t mention this feast at all, or don’t mention it as being on June 8. So far in my research I’ve been able to find a source saying that Pope Benedict XV in the 1920s established it, at least for Belgium (which was pushing for it), on November 8 and later it got moved to May 31. When the 1962 calendar got revised after Vatican II, the feast was dropped, apparently.
(As a side note, I found that the Philippines had a different date for this feast associated with an alleged apparition that’s apparently unapproved as of now, so I won’t discuss it further. I’ve also read that a number of religious orders were celebrating it even before Pope Benedict XV put it in the calendar, and that the orders all presumably had dates of their own for the feast, for example the Dominicans seem to have had it on various days and finally ended up with it on May 8. )
Normally when a feast has been moved around in the pre-Vatican 2 calendars, I can look up old revisions of the calendar and see when it moved/ which Pope moved it, but I’m drawing a blank here for some reason. The calendars I can find don’t seem to be showing this feast.
So my question is:
How did the feast of Mary, Mediatrix which Pope Benedict XV put in place for Belgium on November 8, end up getting moved to June 8? Who moved it, was there a reason why it moved, etc. And where are the “some places” it was celebrated on June 8? Was USA one of them?
Thanks for any light anyone can shed on this.
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