Translating names into Latin

[Jordan_Francis]

Would Saint John of the Cross not be:

Sanctus Iohannes Crucis, rather than Sanctus Iohannes a Cruce?

That is, the genitive shows possession (that John belongs to the Cross) where as the ablative shows place of origin (as in, Saint John from the Cross)

I’m only in my second semester of classical Latin though…

 

[tee_eff_em]

Would Saint John of the Cross not be:

Sanctus Iohannes Crucis, rather than Sanctus Iohannes a Cruce?

That is, the genitive shows possession (that John belongs to the Cross) where as the ablative shows place of origin (as in, Saint John from the Cross)

I’m only in my second semester of classical Latin though…

No. cf The Church’s own designations in the [post=4872171]links posted[/post] by [user]Geremia[/user].

tee

 

[tommydude2112]

I basically want to be able to know how to say “(SAINT NAME) pray for us” in Latin.

Like my name is Brendan, after St. Brendan, the voyager. So I want to say “Sancte _____, ora pro nobis”

I was also trying to say “Saint John of the Cross, pray for us.” Would this be “Sancte Ioannes de crux, ora pro nobis?”

SANCTE BRENDANUS ORA PRO NOBIS

The Latinized form of the Irish-originated name Brendan is Brendanus, be careful though as not all masculine names follow the generally-accepted rule of add ‘us’, for example John is obvioulsy Ioannes (however it is an accepted without-exceptions rule that J’s become I’s and U’s become V’s - however the latter rule is generally ignored)

(Julius = IVLIVS or Ivlivs or Iulius)

 

[iohanne]

I believe it is, in English, Rockville Center. Hence not Petropolis (Rock City) but Petropolitana.

Not quite. Petropolitana is the adjective of Petropolis. Petropolitana modifies dioecesis.

 

[newyorkcatholic]

SANCTE BRENDANUS ORA PRO NOBIS

The Latinized form of the Irish-originated name Brendan is Brendanus, be careful though as not all masculine names follow the generally-accepted rule of add ‘us’, for example John is obvioulsy Ioannes (however it is an accepted without-exceptions rule that J’s become I’s and U’s become V’s - however the latter rule is generally ignored)

(Julius = IVLIVS or Ivlivs or Iulius)

Vocative is “Brendane”.

In summary of above posts: you can learn the declensions if you want to do this, but really why not just do it in English?

I love Latin and have been studying it for a while, if you want to do it great, but it’s not necessary.

 

[Cinoeye]

Very interesting topic. Most European nations have their own versions of the Biblical names who have Hebrew/Greek origin.

 

[Rich_C]

A great example of how names end different according to their use is the Confiteor:

Confiteor Deo omnipotenti, beatæ Mariæ semper Virgini, beato Michaeli Archangelo, beato Ioanni Baptistæ, sanctis Apostolis Petro et Paulo, omnibus Sanctis, et vobis, fratres: quia peccavi nimis cogitatione, verbo et opere: mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. Ideo precor beatam Mariam semper Virginem, beatum Michaelem Archangelum, beatum Ioannem Baptistam, sanctos Apostolos Petrum et Paulum, omnes Sanctos, et vos, fratres, orare pro me ad Dominum Deum nostrum.

Note how all the names are said twice, but in the second part of the prayer they end differently. My Latin grammar is a little rusty but in the first instance of each name the word “to” is implied so we use the dative case, and in the second instance the names are objects so we use the accusative case.

 

[ProVobis]

A great example of how names end different according to their use is the Confiteor:

Note how all the names are said twice, but in the second part of the prayer they end differently. My Latin grammar is a little rusty but in the first instance of each name the word “to” is implied so we use the dative case, and in the second instance the names are objects so we use the accusative case.

That’s correct. One of the beauties of Latin is that it’s inflective and each noun and verb take on a different usage depending on its ending. Greek and the Slavic languages have that feature as well.