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nordskoven
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As long as we are hashing out translations, isn’t the translation more accurately, “And lead us not into temptation but deliver us from the evil one.”
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bogeydogg
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Yes
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bmullins
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I think we had this discussion just a few days ago? Let me do a search.
Ahh yes, “Faulty ‘Our Father’ prayer”
My answer to that thread is still the same, I acknowledge it’s faulty, but…
Ahh yes, “Faulty ‘Our Father’ prayer”
My answer to that thread is still the same, I acknowledge it’s faulty, but…
I dunno… when I pray deliver us from evil, that covers Satan. It also covers all of the evil spiritual influences, and evil from other men/women. I don’t see it as a problem. If I pray deliver me from evil… and Satan IS evil… then adding ‘one’ to the end doesn’t change the intent of being delivered from evil.
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COPLAND_3
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In the Greek you have the genitive article “tou” which translates “of the”, and makes it “of the evil”, which requires in English some kind of addition to clarify it, which “of the evil ome” to be a legitimate translation. Latin has no articles, so when you translate it you have no “of the” to deal with, which means it translates into “deliver us from evil.”
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bogeydogg
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Which is why we should read the GreekIn the Greek you have the genitive article “tou” which translates “of the”, and makes it “of the evil”, which requires in English some kind of addition to clarify it, which “of the evil ome” to be a legitimate translation. Latin has no articles, so when you translate it you have no “of the” to deal with, which means it translates into “deliver us from evil.”
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WesleyF
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It surely is. The Greek says “deliver us from THE evil”.As long as we are hashing out translations, isn’t the translation more accurately, “And lead us not into temptation but deliver us from the evil one.”
In the English, they have dropped the word “the” and made it “deliver us from evil”. But I think that doesn’t do justice to the meaning of the prayer, especially when the Catholic Church’s understand is clear on this issue, that the evil being referred to is not an abstraction, but it is a reference to the evil one.
Instead of dropping the word “the”, it would have made more sense to add “one”.
Why is dropping favored to adding in this case? I just don’t know. May God deliver us from this evil.
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