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Sam_777
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Those days meant for God’s worshiping plus family matters/parties.Why don’t you post on those days ??
Two Muslim women got killed recently because they considered Christianity.
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Jay53
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If possible, I would like to see a response to these stories from some of the Muslim posters. Would these murderers be condemned for their actions?
Thank you.
Thank you.
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planten
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We do not need to condemn such bad acts of the Muslims because nobody believes us. There is no room for such cruel deeds in Islam. Islam teaches “There is no compulsion in the matters of religion.”
Buit practically, the opposite is happening in Indonasia and Sudan and Pakistan and Bangladesh. That is because the religion has been high-jacked by the ignorant Mullas. They believe that everybody can come into Islam. But nobody can leave Islam. That is all false belief and nothing to do with the original islam.
Not only the peaceful (non-abusive) christians be allowed to walk and talk freely in SA but also nobody should oppress them for their faith alone. They should be respected for their christian faith and allowed to live happily, same as all Muslims are living happily in western countries.
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dzheremi
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Because no one believes you, you don’t have to condemn people who are damaging your faith community? I don’t see how that can be. It seems like it should be the opposite.
Don’t give up so quickly. You could do a lot of good for your community, and that’s very positive even if people outside don’t notice it or care.
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Reuben_J
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I understand that your Ahmadi is a small Islamis sect that does not conform to mainstream Islamic teachings. I thought I saw it in AFP news sometimes back that your sect is banned in Indonesia.
Considering how Sunni Muslims view your sect, it is not surprising that they will not listen to you. As for non-Muslims, which Islamic sect should we considered representative of Islam? All of you are claiming his own is right respectively.
But looking at the hadiths which justify such honour killings, what conclusion should non-Muslims make other than just take what your scriptures says so, especilaly since Muslims are following them ?
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Muslim_Woman
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Pl. explain what is Islamic Sabbath ?
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Muslim_Woman
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Salaam/peace
Is Apostasy a Capital Crime in Islam?
By Dr. Jamal A. Badawi**
Behold, as for those who come to believe, and then deny the truth, and again come to believe, and again deny the truth, and thereafter grow stubborn in their denial of truth — God will not forgive them, nor will guide them in any way. (An-Nisaa’ 4:137)
It is important to note in the above verse that if the Qur’an prescribes capital punishment for apostasy, then the apostate should be killed after the first instance of apostasy.
As such there would be no opportunity to “again come to believe and again deny the truth, and thereafter grow stubborn in their denial of truth”.
In spite of these acts of repeated apostasy, no capital punishment is prescribed for them
islamonline.net/English/contemporary/2006/04/article02.shtml
Salaam/peace
holy Quran does not say anything about honour killing.
Is Apostasy a Capital Crime in Islam?
By Dr. Jamal A. Badawi**
Behold, as for those who come to believe, and then deny the truth, and again come to believe, and again deny the truth, and thereafter grow stubborn in their denial of truth — God will not forgive them, nor will guide them in any way. (An-Nisaa’ 4:137)
It is important to note in the above verse that if the Qur’an prescribes capital punishment for apostasy, then the apostate should be killed after the first instance of apostasy.
As such there would be no opportunity to “again come to believe and again deny the truth, and thereafter grow stubborn in their denial of truth”.
In spite of these acts of repeated apostasy, no capital punishment is prescribed for them
islamonline.net/English/contemporary/2006/04/article02.shtml
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cathopologist
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inJESUS, you a regular on Paltalk? I hangout in the Catholic rooms.
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R_not
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Well, that is all fine and dandy but people are killed and tortured all the time for leaving islam. Why tell us when you guys need to inform your own followers of islam and/or bring those who do those deeds to trial? You are trying to convince us of stuff that you guys do not have any control of and we see/read it happening all the time.
If there is no honor killings in islam (which I know I have not seen it in the koran) then why is it that no muslim groups change the sharia laws that just let it happen? We all know that non-muslims cannot even vote in muslim lands, but how come muslims don’t change those laws?
And those laws are what muslims bring to our lands and want to enforce. Why is it you guys don’t change them?!?!?
Of course, when done in our countries we treat them like crimes and they go through the courts, but in muslim countries they do not.
Again you tell us when you need to do something within your religion and stop telling us what is when your own adherents don’t seem to know.
Now, I know the old story - you can not be held responsible… blah blah blah
Well, gee we have examples of muslims being able to organize to riot about cartoons, muslims rioting if they don’t get their way in an election in Africa, or muslims protesting banners but not the violence in Mumbai, they get together for parades in NYC, etc.
So, please don’t tell me that no muslim group could do anything within islam to start changing anything.
There is only lip service to us, but reality is a different thing in islam.
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swariffin
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The “sin” according to Islam has not yet been committed. How come they are killed for things just in consideration??? 
That is not honor killing, it is barbaric killing.
That is not honor killing, it is barbaric killing.
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R_not
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Seriously - I just do not have the imagination to make this stuff up! Like islam’s neverending war - so goes their neverending lala logic.
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: Dr Naik: Surplus of women-one of the world biggest problems
Zakir Naik wrote:
Today, one of the biggest problems that the Western world is facing, which is not so much in the Eastern part of the world, is the surplus of women. You have more women in the Western world. In the Eastern world the reason is because of female infanticide. If this evil process stops, even the Eastern world - this problem will be there.
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By nature, men and women are born in equal proportion. Male and female - they’re born in equal proportion. But during the pediatric age itself… If you ask any pediatrician, he will tell you that the female child can fight the germs and diseases much better than the male child. So, in the pediatric age itself, there are more male children dying than female children. So, in the pediatric age itself, the female population is more than the male population. As life goes on, death takes place due to accidents, cigarette smoking, wars, etc. In all these cases, more males are dying as compared to females. So today in the world, there is more female population as compared to male population. It’s only in certain countries, like India, that the male population is more than the female population, and as I said, it is because of female infanticide. And According to a report of BBC by Emily Buchanan, on the program “Assignment,” the topic was “Let Her Die,” she said that every day more than 3,000 fetuses are being aborted in India alone, after they are identified that they are females. If you multiply the figure by 365 – the number of days in a year – more than one million fetuses are being aborted every year in India, after they are identified that they are females. If you stop this evil practice, even in India and some other countries the female population will exceed the male population.
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New York alone has one million females more than males. Out of the population of New York - the statistics tell us - one third are gays. “Gays” means Sodomites. It means the people of Lt. That means they wouldn’t like to have females as life partners. There are more than 25 million gays, Sodomites, in America, in the USA. Another problem. Twenty five million… In the U.K. alone, there are four million females more than males. In Germany alone, there are five million females more than males. In Russia alone, there are nine million females more than males. And Allah knows alone how many millions of females are there more than males throughout the world.
Suppose I agree with the Western philosophy, or a non-Muslim who says that one man should only marry one woman. And suppose my sister happens to live in America, and suppose the market is saturated, and every man has already taken a woman for himself, yet there will be 30 million females who will not find life partners – 7.8 million added to the excess, and the 25 million gays, if you add it to them. There are more than 30 million females who will not find life partners. Now the only option remaining for my sister… Or suppose your sister happens to be in America, and she is that unfortunate one who has not found a life partner - if she can find a man who is not married, grab him – but suppose the market is saturated. What will she do? The only option remaining for her is that she either marries a man who already has a wife or she becomes “public property.” You people say: “public property? Dr. Zakir using such a harsh word.” I am saying that the most sophisticated word that I can use is public property. You know I cannot use other words because I am a da’i [preacher]. Public property. There’s no third option.
But that is a problem I mean really…Not the terrorism, poverty, hunger, illiteracy, cancer, but surplus of women and the teddy bear named Mohammed…
Too many women
Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: Dr Naik: Surplus of women-one of the world biggest problems
Zakir Naik wrote:
Today, one of the biggest problems that the Western world is facing, which is not so much in the Eastern part of the world, is the surplus of women. You have more women in the Western world. In the Eastern world the reason is because of female infanticide. If this evil process stops, even the Eastern world - this problem will be there.
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By nature, men and women are born in equal proportion. Male and female - they’re born in equal proportion. But during the pediatric age itself… If you ask any pediatrician, he will tell you that the female child can fight the germs and diseases much better than the male child. So, in the pediatric age itself, there are more male children dying than female children. So, in the pediatric age itself, the female population is more than the male population. As life goes on, death takes place due to accidents, cigarette smoking, wars, etc. In all these cases, more males are dying as compared to females. So today in the world, there is more female population as compared to male population. It’s only in certain countries, like India, that the male population is more than the female population, and as I said, it is because of female infanticide. And According to a report of BBC by Emily Buchanan, on the program “Assignment,” the topic was “Let Her Die,” she said that every day more than 3,000 fetuses are being aborted in India alone, after they are identified that they are females. If you multiply the figure by 365 – the number of days in a year – more than one million fetuses are being aborted every year in India, after they are identified that they are females. If you stop this evil practice, even in India and some other countries the female population will exceed the male population.
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New York alone has one million females more than males. Out of the population of New York - the statistics tell us - one third are gays. “Gays” means Sodomites. It means the people of Lt. That means they wouldn’t like to have females as life partners. There are more than 25 million gays, Sodomites, in America, in the USA. Another problem. Twenty five million… In the U.K. alone, there are four million females more than males. In Germany alone, there are five million females more than males. In Russia alone, there are nine million females more than males. And Allah knows alone how many millions of females are there more than males throughout the world.
Suppose I agree with the Western philosophy, or a non-Muslim who says that one man should only marry one woman. And suppose my sister happens to live in America, and suppose the market is saturated, and every man has already taken a woman for himself, yet there will be 30 million females who will not find life partners – 7.8 million added to the excess, and the 25 million gays, if you add it to them. There are more than 30 million females who will not find life partners. Now the only option remaining for my sister… Or suppose your sister happens to be in America, and she is that unfortunate one who has not found a life partner - if she can find a man who is not married, grab him – but suppose the market is saturated. What will she do? The only option remaining for her is that she either marries a man who already has a wife or she becomes “public property.” You people say: “public property? Dr. Zakir using such a harsh word.” I am saying that the most sophisticated word that I can use is public property. You know I cannot use other words because I am a da’i [preacher]. Public property. There’s no third option.
But that is a problem I mean really…Not the terrorism, poverty, hunger, illiteracy, cancer, but surplus of women and the teddy bear named Mohammed…
Too many women
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