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Test. Two quick questions -
  1. Without looking in the Catechism, what is the difference between:
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Incredulity;
Could not find definatiion in either the Catholic Dictionary or Merrian Webster?

Heresy;
Commonly refers to a doctrinal belief held in opposition to the recognized standards of an established system of thought. Theologically it means an opinion at variance with the authorized teachings of any church, notably the Christian, and especially when this promotes separation from the main body of faithful believers.

In the Roman Catholic Church, heresy has a very specific meaning. Anyone who, after receiving baptism, while remaining nominally a Christian, pertinaciously denies or doubts any of the truths that must be believed with divine and Catholic faith is considered a heretic. Accordingly four elements must be verified to constitute formal heresy; previous valid baptism, which need not have been in the Catholic Church; external profession of still being a Christian, otherwise a person becomes an apostate; outright denial or positive doubt regarding a truth that the Catholic Church has actually proposed as revealed by God; and the disbelief must be morally culpable, where a nominal Christian refuses to accept what he knows is a doctrinal imperative.

Objectively, therefore, to become a heretic in the strict canonical sense and be excommunicated from the faithful, one must deny or question a truth that is taught not merely on the authority of the Church but on the word of God revealed in the Scriptures or sacred tradition. Subjectively a person must recognize his obligation to believe. It he acts in good faith, as with most persons brought up in non-Catholic surroundings, the heresy is only material and implies neither guild nor sin against faith. (Etym. Latin haeresis, from the Greek hairesis, a taking, choice, sect, heresy.)

Schism;
Historic divisions in Christian unity. These divisions are differently appraised by different communions. From the Catholic standpoint, the divisions are not only schismatic but also doctrinal, even as regards the Oriental Christians who do not recognize the Roman primacy. Other churches vary in applying the term “schism” to ecclesiastical separatism. The Eastern Churches and certain Reformed and Lutheran bodies look upon the disunity as basically theological and therefore solvable only through dogmatic reconciliation, while the majority consider the divisions merely schismatic. In this theory, the reunion of Christianity primarily demands not change of belief by the exercise of charity, which is the antidote for schism and which can “make all things work together for good–even our divisions,” as expressed by the Commission on Faith and Order of the World Council of Churches

Apostasy ?

The total rejection by a baptized person of the Christian faith he once professed. The term is also applied in a technical sense to “apostates from religious life,” who without authorization leave a religious institute after perpetual vows with no intention of returning. (Etym. Latin apostasia, falling away or separation from God; from Greek apostasis, revolt, literally, a standing-off.)
  1. If you don’t know the difference, how will you recognize them ?
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Test. Two quick questions -
  1. Without looking in the Catechism, what is the difference between:
    Incredulity;
    Heresy;
    Schism;
    Apostasy ?
  2. If you don’t know the difference, how will you recognize them ?
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Using a dictionary wasn’t exactly what I had in mind. But congrats for thinking out of the box. 🙂

I wanted to let people decide for themselves if they really know their Faith and how to defend it…

For those who can not answer question #1, they don’t know the basics.

In fact, it is possible they are committing a sin of erroneous judgement (ignorance) #1791, #1792 by unknowingly participating in:
Incredulity;
Heresy;
Schism;
Apostasy;
if they can not recognize/define it.

The Church’s answer is #2089 in the “Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition” first printed in the US in March 2000.

Do you think this would make a good Sermon for educational purposes at Mass ?
 
Test. Two quick questions -
  1. Without looking in the Catechism, what is the difference between:
    Incredulity;
    Heresy;
    Schism;
    Apostasy ?
  2. If you don’t know the difference, how will you recognize them ?
youtube.com/user/RealCatholicTV#p/a/u/0/1qQJ-fY-g_A
Why not look in the Catechism? It has the most concise and authoritative answer. That’s like asking for a definition without recourse to a dictionary.

From the Catechism #2089:

2089 Incredulity is the neglect of revealed truth or the willful refusal to assent to it. “Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same; apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith; schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.”(⇒ CIC, can. 751: emphasis added.)
 
Incredulity means lack of belief, as in “That’s incredible” (ie. I don’t believe what I"m seeing/hearing etc.)." The word incredulous comes from the same root.

I’ve never heard this applied to faith. In my mind incredulity does not necessarily imply a long term disbelief…more of a ‘being taken by surprise’ sort of disbelief.

If I don’t know the difference, I go to an authority who (or which) can tell me.
 
Why not look in the Catechism? It has the most concise and authoritative answer. That’s like asking for a definition without recourse to a dictionary.

From the Catechism #2089:

2089 Incredulity is the neglect of revealed truth or the willful refusal to assent to it. “Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same; apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith; schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.”(⇒ CIC, can. 751: emphasis added.)
What an awesome passage of the catechism!
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Using a dictionary wasn’t exactly what I had in mind. But congrats for thinking out of the box. 🙂

I wanted to let people decide for themselves if they really know their Faith and how to defend it…

For those who can not answer question #1, they don’t know the basics.

In fact, it is possible they are committing a sin of erroneous judgement (ignorance) #1791, #1792 by unknowingly participating in:
Incredulity;
Heresy;
Schism;
Apostasy;
if they can not recognize/define it.

The Church’s answer is #2089 in the “Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition” first printed in the US in March 2000.

Do you think this would make a good Sermon for educational purposes at Mass ?
Someone posted # 2089 from the Catechism verbatim 🙂
Incredulity is the neglect of revealed truth or the willful refusal to assent to it.
Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same;
apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith;
**schism **is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him."(⇒ CIC, can. 751: emphasis added.)

The sins of erronious judgement (culpable ingnorance) are:
#1791
This ignorance can often be imputed to personal responsibility. This is the case when a man "takes little trouble to find out what is true and good, or when conscience is by degrees almost blinded through the habit of committing sin."59 In such cases, the person is culpable for the evil he commits.

#1792
Ignorance of Christ and his Gospel, bad example given by others, enslavement to one’s passions, assertion of a mistaken notion of autonomy of conscience, rejection of the Church’s authority and her teaching, lack of conversion and of charity: these can be at the source of errors of judgment in moral conduct.
 
=WatchingMedia;6715120]Using a dictionary wasn’t exactly what I had in mind. But congrats for thinking out of the box. 🙂
I wanted to let people decide for themselves if they really know their Faith and how to defend it…
For those who can not answer question #1, they don’t know the basics.
In fact, it is possible they are committing a sin of erroneous judgement (ignorance) #1791, #1792 by unknowingly participating in:
Incredulity;
Heresy;
Schism;
Apostasy;
if they can not recognize/define it.
The Church’s answer is #2089 in the “Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition” first printed in the US in March 2000.
Do you think this would make a good Sermon for educational purposes at Mass ?
**CCC 2089 **Incredulity is the neglect of revealed truth or the willful refusal to assent to it. “Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same; apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith; schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him.”

I have read the 92 Catechism and the 94 Catechism both twice, cover to cover; but that’s alot to remember:o

Like you I use it open.

Love and prayers,
Pat
 
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