U.S. Catholic Catechism for Adults

[scylla]

Are you saying that the Church isn’t supposed to be concerned with social justice?

Matthew 25, anyone?

Yes, I do admit that catechesis is terrible. As Church, we have fallen down, and my generation has fallen away. I have no problem at all with a feeling of familiarity with Christ, however. It is entirely possible to feel reverence for the God who walks beside us always, and this is what the new Catechism edition does a great job of facilitating.

No of course not. We are all called to love our neighbor as ourselves. Yet that should never be exclude truth, a witness to our Catholic faith, and the message of salvation through Jesus.
No watering down of our need for repentance, coming to Christ, leaving our sinful lives behind and dying to ourselves for Jesus.

Often you will see social justice preached without a focus on the truth of Christ, or with the teachings of the Church downplayed.

Familiarity with Christ should be always preached and I agree that the new Catechism is good. What I lament is what you agree with, that Catechesis has been terrible, our Churches teaching has been downplayed and often ignored being replaced with only part of the message of our mission as Christians.

Social justice while downplaying the need strong Catholicism. I am not saying we leave behind social justice, I am just saying we include Jesus and His truth. Part of social justice which is often ignored, is sharing Christ with others. We shouldn’t hide Jesus but boldly proclaim the need for salvation.

God Bless
Scylla

 

[scylla]

Now I do have a complaint which is minor, but if I am wrong I will retract it.

It should be online and free for reading. I looked to see and I couldn’t see it. It should be freely available like the Bible and the CCC is at the Bishops site as it is quite important for this sort of book to be readily available.

Scylla

 

[chotock]

No of course not. We are all called to love our neighbor as ourselves. Yet that should never be exclude truth, a witness to our Catholic faith, and the message of salvation through Jesus.
No watering down of our need for repentance, coming to Christ, leaving our sinful lives behind and dying to ourselves for Jesus.

Often you will see social justice preached without a focus on the truth of Christ, or with the teachings of the Church downplayed.

Familiarity with Christ should be always preached and I agree that the new Catechism is good. What I lament is what you agree with, that Catechesis has been terrible, our Churches teaching has been downplayed and often ignored being replaced with only part of the message of our mission as Christians.

Social justice while downplaying the need strong Catholicism. I am not saying we leave behind social justice, I am just saying we include Jesus and His truth. Part of social justice which is often ignored, is sharing Christ with others. We shouldn’t hide Jesus but boldly proclaim the need for salvation.

God Bless
Scylla

Well said, very well said indeed.

I am throughly enjoying seeing things such as the USCCA appearing, it shows that somewhere someone has recognized that we need more, or rather more faithful, Catechesis.

Our RCIA team had thought about the USCCA as a program option, but we decided to go with the ACM program (check it out folks, its incredible) and use the Compendium as a secondary book, and I am still trying to get the money for the USCCA to give to our folks.

 

[PKinsale]

It should be online and free for reading. I looked to see and I couldn’t see it. It should be freely available like the Bible and the CCC is at the Bishops site as it is quite important for this sort of book to be readily available.

Scylla

The USCCB has been faulted before for its heavy-handed approach when it comes to copyright enforcement. The CCC, the Compendium and the Baltimore are all online … even the Summa Theologiae!

 

[Pius_X]

What exactly does the Baltimore Catechism say about this? I have heard some people fault the CCC for being a little ambiguous on things.

“Q. 632. Where will persons go who – such as infants – have not committed actual sin and who, through no fault of theirs, die without baptism? A. Persons, such as infants, who have not committed actual sin and who, through no fault of theirs, die without baptism, cannot enter heaven; but it is the common belief they will go to some place similar to Limbo, where they will be free from suffering, though deprived of the happiness of heaven”

This puts limits on God’s love and mercy, though we probably should not be getting off topic.

 

[verdigirl]

“Q. 632. Where will persons go who – such as infants – have not committed actual sin and who, through no fault of theirs, die without baptism? A. Persons, such as infants, who have not committed actual sin and who, through no fault of theirs, die without baptism, cannot enter heaven; but it is the common belief they will go to some place similar to Limbo, where they will be free from suffering, though deprived of the happiness of heaven”

This puts limits on God’s love and mercy, though we probably should not be getting off topic.

Ha! Limbo!



(though we are off topic)

 

[Pius_X]

Ha! Limbo!



(though we are off topic)

Yes, the concept of a Limbo of the Infants is laughable in my opinion, but sad that many people, even brilliant minds and saints, believed it. I guess no one is perfect.

 

[puzzleannie]

Is there some reason we cannot confine this discussion to the work cited in the title of the thread? and by the way, probably should be in the evangelization forum.