Unconsecrated hosts were "sharing" the same table as donuts & coffee

[Brendan]

although i couldn’t bring myself to just snack on it when offered one.

I have on several occasions, they’re actually pretty good intincted in salsa

Hosts are the last thing I would think of as a tasty snack - flour and water.

That is pretty much what a tortilla is, which is why the above is true

 

[whatevergirl]

I have on several occasions, they’re actually pretty good intincted in salsa

That is pretty much what a tortilla is, which is why the above is true

Oh my gosh, I’m regretting opening this thread.*

 

[whatevergirl]

Yes, as far as I know the unconsecrated bread is just that…bread. It is an odd imagery to think of the hosts as being on a donut table though. I mean if they are consecrated that is just a whole other story and a total abuse. But I am going on your assumption that they were not yet consecrated.
God bless your reverence for the Eucharist… It is always better to be on the side of caution than to be too relaxed. I am sure Jesus is happy to know you have his back, especially when so many in the world neglect and abuse the Eucharist.

*Thanks, Mia. lol I am assuming that they were unconsecrated hosts…I mean, it wouldn’t make sense why they would be sitting in the front like that, if they were already consecrated. I have never seen anything like this before, but I have also never attended a mass in a storefront. lol I am going to look for a little table for the gifts this weekend, hopefully, I can find a suitable one. I might ask our priests first though, what they think would be a viable size. *

 

[5Loaves]

I am wondering since we don’t have a tabernacle, where DO the consecrated hosts go, after mass?

Normally in a Mass location where there is no tabernacle all the Precious Body is consumed, so the faithful and the priest and deacon would continue consuming, if there are “extras”, until all are gone.

Some places will have a plate on a table at the entrance with hosts and another plate next to it. When one enters one moves a host into the “empty” dish. Then only the hosts in that plate are brought forward as the gifts, as a means of controlling the number of hosts consecrated to best match the number of those receiving. This is usually done in a small group like a retreat, even if there is a tabernacle.

(The preference is that we always are consuming the Precious Body that was consecrated in the Mass we are attending, and not consuming those previously consecrated and brought up from the tabernacle. Many places this however is not followed. GIRM 85. It is most desirable that the faithful, just as the priest himself is bound to do, receive the Lord’s Body from hosts consecrated at the same Mass and that, in the instances when it is permitted, they partake of the chalice, so that even by means of the signs Communion will stand out more clearly as a participation in the sacrifice actually being celebrated.)

 

[whatevergirl]

*Thank you, 5loaves for replying. So, if there was a tabernacle, the remaining Eucharist would be placed there, and since there is no tabernacle within this store front (yet) then the priests consume the remains. Okay, I see now! lol I’m not sure why I didn’t know this:blush:, maybe because I’ve never attended a parish that took place outside of a church building. Well, back at the funeral home chapel where this parish ‘began,’ I assume they didn’t have a tabernacle there either, but it was laid out differently, and so I wasn’t quite sure. I thought maybe they had a tabernacle behind the altar, behind the wall of the altar. *

 

[choy]

Normally in a Mass location where there is no tabernacle all the Precious Body is consumed, so the faithful and the priest and deacon would continue consuming, if there are “extras”, until all are gone.

Some places will have a plate on a table at the entrance with hosts and another plate next to it. When one enters one moves a host into the “empty” dish. Then only the hosts in that plate are brought forward as the gifts, as a means of controlling the number of hosts consecrated to best match the number of those receiving. This is usually done in a small group like a retreat, even if there is a tabernacle.

(The preference is that we always are consuming the Precious Body that was consecrated in the Mass we are attending, and not consuming those previously consecrated and brought up from the tabernacle. Many places this however is not followed. GIRM 85. It is most desirable that the faithful, just as the priest himself is bound to do, receive the Lord’s Body from hosts consecrated at the same Mass and that, in the instances when it is permitted, they partake of the chalice, so that even by means of the signs Communion will stand out more clearly as a participation in the sacrifice actually being celebrated.)

i’ve seen priests carry around the hosts in the gold container (don’t know what its called), the one with the cover that is also used during mass. after they celebrate the mass in an off-site location, whatever is left is still kept in the container and brought back to the Tabernacle of the Parish they came from. this is for mass celebrations outside a church. in the Philippines its not uncommon that some office workers would organize a First Friday Mass celebrated at the office conference room during lunch break

but i guess if there is no tabernacle, the idea is to consume all hosts or just concecrate enough for how many will have communion

 

[deanast]

Hi, before consecration the hosts are just bread. As a 1st communion catechist I make a big point of the difference - before consecration they are nothing but bits of bread, afterward they are the body of Jesus, our God who is physically and objectively present with us, a reality that is independent of what we believe at the time. This sounds to me like a really good opportunity for discussion with any children who happened to notice the hosts on the donut table.

 

[whatevergirl]

*It is ‘special’ bread though.

I meant to discuss buying the table after mass this weekend…I think I’m going to have to get there earlier than mass, to discuss it with one of the priests. He’s just too busy after mass. *

 

[Mrs_Sally]

***It is ‘special’ bread though. ***I meant to discuss buying the table after mass this weekend…I think I’m going to have to get there earlier than mass, to discuss it with one of the priests. He’s just too busy after mass.

Nope, its really not. Any bread made with just flour and water will do. Just cause this bread looked like little round wafers doesn’t mean that it is any different before consecration than tortillas or pita or flatbread made with just flour and water.

 

[whatevergirl]

I know you are right Mrs Sally…but not sure why it bothers me that it’s sharing the same table with donuts. Oh well…my problem, I guess!

 

[Mrs_Sally]

I know you are right Mrs Sally…but not sure why it bothers me that it’s sharing the same table with donuts. Oh well…my problem, I guess!

Well, I do agree that a separate table for it would be a good idea. If only so that there aren’t donut crumbs in the dish when the hosts are consecrated!

 

[PacoG]

Wasn’t it from Trent, or maybe Chalcedon where the Fathers said “Thou shalt have donughts after mass”?

I think think it was phrased more like:

Whosoever shall deny that doughnuts or pan dulce [the Spaniards had to get that in] is the appropriate food for after Holy Mass, let him be anathema.

 

[dnar]

I think think it was phrased more like:

Whosoever shall deny that doughnuts or pan dulce [the Spaniards had to get that in] is the appropriate food for after Holy Mass, let him be anathema.

 

[whatevergirl]

I am starting to regret posting this thread…
I was serious when I asked the question, originally.

 

[FrCorey]

well I think it is wrong. the hosts are made for a special reason and should not be out for snacks even thou they are not transformed yet.
thats like making the unconsecrated wine availible for parties. or giving out new altar candles to people for a power outage.

 

[LilyM]

well I think it is wrong. the hosts are made for a special reason and should not be out for snacks even thou they are not transformed yet.
thats like making the unconsecrated wine availible for parties. or giving out new altar candles to people for a power outage.

I have to say, one priest I knew as a child would give me unconsecrated hosts. I knew very well that they weren’t consecrated, but I also knew very well that they were not just ‘snacks’. If memory serves I used to play at saying Mass using them - and I’m sure there are numerous priests who have come to realise their vocation by doing the same thing as children!

Now that I think of it, I’m pretty sure we got a bottle or two of altar wine as a thankyou gift when we invited priests over for a meal. Why not, if they don’t have time to go to the bottle shop or something? For what it’s worth, being purer than commercial wines altar wine tends, to my palate, to taste better. :yup:

 

[whatevergirl]

well I think it is wrong. the hosts are made for a special reason and should not be out for snacks even thou they are not transformed yet.
thats like making the unconsecrated wine availible for parties. or giving out new altar candles to people for a power outage.

*Well, at least someone agrees with me. lol (but they weren’t out as snacks, but it has the appearance of such) Good points, you bring up! *