USCCB authority

[JIB]

Im just curious how much authority the usscb has when it comes to economic issues. I saw where they criticized Paul Ryan’s budget for not being socialist enough (that’s not how their criticism was worded but was essentially the point).

How does one that understands economics deal with the usccb when it appears to state that socialism/welfare/redistribution must be advocated? It always bugs me to read that sort of thing and yet I don’t want to sound like I’m going against the church. It would seem this would be an issue that is not necessarily under authority of the usccb, like if they said its bett to build a home with straw rather than brick. If my understanding is that socialism will not result in what it’s supporters say it will am I wrong not to support it?

 

[Ender]

Im just curious how much authority the usscb has when it comes to economic issues.

None. Nor is their lack of authority limited to economic issues.“No episcopal conference, as such, has a teaching mission; its documents have no weight of their own save that of the consent given to them by the individual bishops.” (Cardinal Ratzinger)

I saw where they criticized Paul Ryan’s budget for not being socialist enough (that’s not how their criticism was worded but was essentially the point).

The involvement of the USCCB - and of individual bishops - in most economic issues is inappropriate and unfortunate. These are prudential issues best solved by those with expertise in the relevant subjects, something we have no reason to expect from the clergy. One may dispute Ryan’s budget proposal on economic grounds but not on moral ones.

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[sedonaman]

Im just curious how much authority the usscb has when it comes to economic issues. I saw where they criticized Paul Ryan’s budget for not being socialist enough (that’s not how their criticism was worded but was essentially the point).

How does one that understands economics deal with the usccb when it appears to state that socialism/welfare/redistribution must be advocated? It always bugs me to read that sort of thing and yet I don’t want to sound like I’m going against the church. …

And you hear statements condemning socialism like,

"At a time when it surely seems that capitalism has run amuck and poised the world on the edge of economic ruin, the temptation is very strong for the pendulum to swing too far left into the failed and immoral territory of socialism. Historically pure socialism has never worked, philosophically it cannot work, and morally it is inherently evil (because it undermines the right of private property ownership, an inherent human right) and hence should not be given a chance to work.”

and,

…We speak of that sect of men who, under various and almost barbarous names, are called socialists, communists, or nihilists, and who, spread over all the world, and bound together by the closest ties in a wicked confederacy, no longer seek the shelter of secret meetings, but, openly and boldly marching forth in the light of day, strive to bring to a head what they have long been planning – the overthrow of all civil society whatsoever. …

… they assail the right of property sanctioned by natural law; and by a scheme of horrible wickedness, while they seem desirous of caring for the needs and satisfying the desires of all men, they strive to seize and hold in common whatever has been acquired either by title of lawful inheritance, or by labor of brain and hands, or by thrift in one’s mode of life. …

QUOD APOSTOLICI MUNERIS (On Socialism) Pope Leo XIII

 

[livingwordunity]

Im just curious how much authority the usscb has when it comes to economic issues. I saw where they criticized Paul Ryan’s budget for not being socialist enough (that’s not how their criticism was worded but was essentially the point).

It’s a liberal media created myth that the USCCB criticized the Paul Ryan budget. Obama’s mainstream media cheer leading squad did this to try to fool Catholics into thinking that the USCCB is as much against Republican policies as they are against Obama’s HHS mandate. When fact checked, this was about a supposed quote or letter from one bishop. But that bishop denied that it came from him. By contrast, Obama’s HHS mandate was condemned by 100% of US bishops. This USCCB condemnation of Obama’s HHS mandate has the support of the Pope.

 

[sedonaman]

It’s a liberal media created myth that the USCCB criticized the Paul Ryan budget. …

The liberal media are “ThOpp-ers” : "Think Opposite of what they say to learn the truth.

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