Using the missal during the liturgy

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It is on the part of the individual to make a choice whether or not to use missal during the liturgy. It is advisable not to use, so that the individual may be able to concentrate and listen to the proclaimed word. The use of the missal during the liturgy may serve as a distraction to the individual. Gratias
Who advises this?? Ted the Lector? Father Bob McBob down the street? A Catholic publication? The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops? Rome? Jesus?

What if the missal serves as the opposite of a distraction? What if - without the text - you have a tendency to daydream about world domination & pretzel bread cheeseburgers, but with the text, you can better focus on the Mass?
 
This is why I don’t volunteer when our parish calls for people to become readers. I would have to read a translation that says one thing when I know very well from my decades as a Bible-studying Protestant that the source texts of Sacred Scripture say something else.
I can’t say I blame you.
 
This is truly a strange subject to be arguing about.
It must be a very slow day for all of us.
 
Honestly, the only thing I care about is on what hierarchical level is it supposedly “adviced” not to use the missal during the Mass.

If Father Bob advises me not to use the missal, I don’t honestly care very much (no disrespect to Father Bob: he’s a good guy) If it’s something coming down from the top, I’m much more intrigued.
 
It matters.
Why does it matter?

Why would anyone care if someone else reads or doesn’t read along. I mean: If one is truly paying attention to what is being read, how could they possibly know that someone else is reading along? It is a lot harder to mind some one else’s business if one is following the scripture with their eyes instead of casting about for some one to criticize.
 
I’ve found the discussion from the posters so far to be helpful. You don’t have to contribute if you would prefer not to.
 
Why does it matter?

Why would anyone care if someone else reads or doesn’t read along. I mean: If one is truly paying attention to what is being read, how could they possibly know that someone else is reading along? It is a lot harder to mind some one else’s business if one is following the scripture with their eyes instead of casting about for some one to criticize.
It matters because there are self-proclaimed authorities out there, in RCIA and elsewhere, who are telling people that the perfectly acceptable practice of reading along in the missal is wrong. They’re making this stuff up and foisting their opinions on people who assume that they speak with some sort of authority. People deserve to know that they have been misled if they have been taught this.
 
I would prefer not to hijack my own thread with a discussion about whether the thread deserves to be discussed or not. A short answer is that I think just like any physical or mental fitness program, there are poor ways, okay ways, good ways, and better ways to go about something in spiritual practices, which is why this topic (among others) interests me. I would prefer you start a separate thread if you want to talk about my alleged busybody attitude.

I’m also interested at what level - if any - certain practices during public worship are advised, or not advised, or if the matter hasn’t been addressed at all and it is neutral. I was given the impression at RCIA that reading the missal during Mass was discouraged, and perhaps being a bit too trusting and too Bambi-eyed towards my newfound Church, I readily took the text’s word at face value. It’s been over a year since then, and I am no longer favorably biased towards something simply because it is associated with the Catholic Church. There is too much internal politics and agendas and emboldened opinions to be able to do that. I realize the information might have been flawed, or spoke with an authority that it never possessed, so I posted the topic here to get some answers.

Is that defense of me asking a question satisfactory to you Helen?
 
I would prefer not to hijack my own thread with a discussion about whether the thread deserves to be discussed or not. A short answer is that I think just like any physical or mental fitness program, there are poor ways, okay ways, good ways, and better ways to go about something in spiritual practices, which is why this topic (among others) interests me. I would prefer you start a separate thread if you want to talk about my alleged busybody attitude.

I’m also interested at what level - if any - certain practices during public worship are advised, or not advised, or if the matter hasn’t been addressed at all and it is neutral. I was given the impression at RCIA that reading the missal during Mass was discouraged, and perhaps being a bit too trusting and too Bambi-eyed towards my newfound Church, I readily took the text’s word at face value. It’s been over a year since then, and I am no longer favorably biased towards something simply because it is associated with the Catholic Church. There is too much internal politics and agendas and emboldened opinions to be able to do that. I realize the information might have been flawed, or spoke with an authority that it never possessed, so I posted the topic here to get some answers.

Is that defense of me asking a question satisfactory to you Helen?
Yes.
 
It matters because there are self-proclaimed authorities out there, in RCIA and elsewhere, who are telling people that the perfectly acceptable practice of reading along in the missal is wrong. They’re making this stuff up and foisting their opinions on people who assume that they speak with some sort of authority. People deserve to know that they have been misled if they have been taught this.
There certainly must be a lot of them. I can’t imagine why anyone would care. But, I guess it should be discussed if only to explain that it is all right to read along.
 
I can’t say that I agree. I think nothing more important other than meager human curiosoity would still have been an abundantly sufficient reason to ask the question, without needing to infer that somebody is “casting about for some one to criticize.” I think that comment really came out of left field and was uncalled for. Nobody ever needs a justification before asking something except perhaps if it is personally sensitive information, and God forbid what it would be like having to live in such a culture.
 
I’m not sure what I meant to convey came out in my previous post. Maybe I should slow down.

What I meant to say is that just because someone is reading their missal, it does NOT mean they are not getting a better understanding of the reading from the lector. Sometimes a good lector can shed new light. It is perfectly fine to use a missal. And sometimes absolutely necessary.
A lector should not be reading for themselves or to be patted on the back for a good job, but to hopefully convey what the writer felt and meant when the words were written or presented to a group of people to lead them to being good Christians. And how the same words can apply today in the Christian life.

Sometimes, due to a not so prepared reader, you must use your missal and decipher the meaning yourself.

Sometimes, a lector will work very hard, practice the reading, and is blessed to be able to present it in a way that you almost sense you’re hearing the original person who spoke the words. I’ve heard a couple readers who can do just that and its a good thing.

I meant to say a great lector should probably be appreciated. But what the lector presents should not at all be for himself/herself to be appreciated (hope that’s not misunderstood)…but the goal should be for ALL the congregation to have a better understanding—whether they listen or whether they read does not matter.
The lector’s job is to proclaim the Word of God. To those who are listening attentively, it may appear that the lector is not reading what is front of him/her. The ministry of the lector is more than simply reading the words on the page.
If you watch a person singing a song, you are not necessarily aware of how closely he or she is looking at the words or music on the pages in right in front of him or her. It should be the same with the lector. As the word is proclaimed, your focus should be on the words themselves.
During the years that I was in the ministry I can assure that the reason that I was there was not for the pats on the back that I received, especially when I knew who it was who read through me. Of my own accord, I certainly do not have the power to pierce hearts.

As mentioned previously, when I am listening I do follow the words in the missal because it does help me be more attentive. Do what works for you whether it be looking at the lector or following the words in the missal.
 
Dear TK421:

Once more, I want to say “Welcome”.

I’m a convert, too. My being Roman Catholic spans five decades now. I’ve seen a lot across the years. I’m very happy I made the decision I did. It’s been an incredible journey, a great odyssey I could never have imagined.

When I was teaching those seeking a master’s degree in theology, I employed the measure that the theological weight accorded to someone, whether it was in an article they wrote or in a statement they said, was fidelity to the Magisterium. So, if the Church teaches X and Sister So & So says Y, there’s no question as to who to believe or what to do: the teaching of the Church (X) trumps anyone’s opinion (Y).

With that as base-line, we can move into the area you’re discussing. The Church has no teaching on whether we should or shouldn’t use missals; people get to decide for themselves.

You have people who will advance their theory about why what they think is best…some are liturgists in parishes; some teach in schools; some write articles in magazines – about topics like this! But since the Church doesn’t say you must do one or not do the other, you can hear what they say and then choose what works best for you.

In such a case, really, what these people say only has the weight of their personal opinion. Even if the bishop of your diocese says that he doesn’t think missals are good, he does not have the authority to make the decision for you because, in this situation, there really is liberty for the individual to choose if using a missal will be helpful.

And as Catholics, we have a lot of those sorts of liberties, actually.

The Lord tells us the importance of prayer…but how we pray has latitude. As a priest, I pray the Liturgy of the Hours. It’s beautiful, well structured, largely scriptural, and is the official prayer of the Church prayed by priests, religious and some laity. It has a lot to recommend it as a “best”. But, really, it does not suit the taste of everyone.

Some love to pray the rosary. It’s a wonderful devotion with many promises from the Mother of Jesus and indulgences from the Church. So it seems also to be a “best”…but it does not suit everyone either.

Some, who might not be suited to either the Liturgy of the Hours or the rosary, will pray the stations of the cross. It’s a devotion of the Passion of Jesus with images to help us focus; we move through a pilgrimage of 14 stations which can help us remain absorbed in prayer. It has a lot to recommend it and is another “best”.

Some like to go and be before the Blessed Sacrament and pray and make a holy hour. Being before the Lord has to be a “best”.

Others love to sit before a shrine of the Blessed Mother and spend time conversing with her. Since Jesus gave her to us to be our mother, that has to be a “best”.

Others love to be at home and take their bible in hand and use the texts in it to pray…and, being the Sacred Scripture, that has to be a “best.”

I say all of this because none of these are not “bests” and, at any given moment in a long life, we can choose one or two or several as our way to pray. One may be a favorite that suddenly overpasses another…but then our situation changes and we’re at a different place in life and our old favorite doesn’t help us as much as a new favorite. And that’s OK. The scale you are trying to apply doesn’t always work.

When we’re a new Catholic, we confront many options. And everything is new. We rely on people to help us integrate ourselves into our new Faith as we make the Faith and its practices part of us and our lives. Some do so wonderfully and become life-long friends. Some don’t do a good job; they confuse us or tell us things that we learn are wrong and they disappoint us.

It takes time to grow and to come to understand that, out of many choices and options, the one that is the best may simply be the one that helps in a given time in our life to be closer to the Lord.

Whether one is hard of hearing or one just prefers to read along, if a missal helps to better follow the Mass (which is still very new after only being Catholic for less than two years!) then that is best. It doesn’t matter what someone says. They can believe what they want.

Some like to sit in the front pew and some like to sit in the back pew. The pew where you feel comfortable and best a part of the liturgy is the best for you…even if someone else says it’s better only to sit in the front or in the back.

When we’re new to the Church, it’s easy to hear what people say. It’s harder to evaluate the weight we should give what they say. We don’t yet have the criteria to make that determination. I’ve never forgotten that experience from my first days of being Catholic!

It sounds like you’ve been burned for being what you think was too trusting and too deferential. I’m sorry you had that experience. But now that you know that you’re better to have a certain level of discernment, don’t go to another extreme and look with suspicion at everyone and everything.

Keep studying the Faith. As time goes by, it becomes easier to make the determination that this pronouncement is important (like the Church’s teaching on the sanctity of life) while another pronouncement (like which musical instrument is best at Mass) is more a matter of personal taste and preference.

Personally, I love the pipe organ…but I was chaplain to a group of Africans who were living abroad. They had such beautiful music from their homeland and they made this music using instruments from their country. As much as they loved the pipe organs in the churches where I was, nothing was as wonderful for them as their own music with their own instruments. Neither of us were wrong for liking what we liked and being uplifted by what uplifted us.

I hope these thoughts help. They really apply to more than just missals at Mass.
 
The idea that reading a Missal during Mass is discouraged is certainly not the teaching of the Church. Some individuals may have this opinion but it is only their opinion.
 
The idea that reading a Missal during Mass is discouraged is certainly not the teaching of the Church. Some individuals may have this opinion but it is only their opinion.
Yes. Exactly.

It is certainly not a “teaching” of the Church.

I think we need to be a little cautious on using that word “teaching” because it’s synonymous with the word “doctrine” which translates literally as “teaching.” Certainly, the subject of a hand missal is not a matter of doctrine.

What is interesting to note is that what little the Church has actually said/written on the subject, the Church encourages the publication, and even the use, of hand missals. This has been consistent for over 100 years (since hand missals have only been around for that long, there was nothing to address in, let’s say, the year 1800).

It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense for the Church to say that these books should be published, while at the same time saying that they should not be used.

Whether or not to use one is for the individual person to decide for himself.
 
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