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VATICAN - Pope: "Never before" has dialogue with Islam been so necessary, for mutual knowledge and acceptance of differences, to counter violence [AN]
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Gabriel_of_12
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The link are commentaries to the Quran text. They are not officially dictating an official stance that the Quran teaches Jesus was crucified, died, resurrected and ascended into heaven. But the commentaries are headed in the positive of not denying it, in contradiction of Muslim religious leaders today teach the denial of the crucifixion.
Upon reading the commentaries you provided, they reminded me of Islam’s earlier mystics who were teaching and giving spiritual interpretations to the Quran which agreed with and supported the (people of the book) Jewish and Christian scriptures. But the political Islamic leaders killed them all and rejected their spiritual interpretations of the Quran.
If one reads the Quran from a mystical interpretation that can join the contradictions of the Quran which reveals Jesus was to die, and Jesus was taken into heaven, Jesus was not crucified by the Jews; by taking the mystical aspects of God’s revelation. One can substitute the Quran’s contradictory writings by relating them to Jesus revealed in the Son of Man fully human which the Quran teaches without ever denying Jesus divinity which was never crucified.
This subject you introduce is what the dialogue must stay the course on religious matters and not political matters of Islam. That is not to say the political aspirations of Islam do need to be addressed but in a separate dialogue.
In short; the Muslim authors of the commentaries walk a fine line of a sure death sentence by Muslims who take an extreme logical interpretation of the Quran. The commentaries are not an official interpretation of the Quran. When they become an official interpretation of the Quran, it brings upon the Muslim a death sentence. History already proves this.
There is hope! and the Pope can begin the reality of that hope, in a religious dialogue with the religious leaders of Islam on the subject of religion and faith.
It will take Muslims teaching Muslims what the commentaries reveal, not the Pope, for Muslims who seek peace and hope of understanding and respecting each other’s differences.
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Gabriel_of_12
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The diverse human cultures, languages, traditions and faiths all reach for truth, peace, life fulfillment with the hope in an afterlife with our creator.
The one universal language, tradition, faith systems all have in common which our creator graced the human race with, is free will and love.
Free will and love are spiritual realities that are made known in the visible realm by actions produced from physical properties.
God has revealed to our humanity Christianity in particular through Jesus Christ, that God is Love, when we the human race are parted that divine love.
A dialogue of God who is Love, when Love Himself should be the main subject that reflects upon all other subjects between the Pope and Islam. Humanity, dignity of life are reflections of God’s parted Love to our humanity.
The dialogue should not become a competition for or of God’s Love. But how God reveals His Love to our humanity. Learning from the Pope and Islam how God revealed God’s Love to each faith can be productive in understanding each ones differences, knowledge, revelation and understanding.
For without Love our humanity is lost and nothing.
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Eric_Hyom
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There is only one God, the creator of all that is seen and unseen, did God make a mistake when he said the Jews are my chosen people?
Did Christ make a mistake when he chose us to follow him?
Did God make a mistake when he said in the Quran, that he chooses whom he wills?
How do we love Muslims as we love ourselves, and with all our differences?
We can do nothing greater than the greatest commandments.
Did Christ make a mistake when he chose us to follow him?
Did God make a mistake when he said in the Quran, that he chooses whom he wills?
How do we love Muslims as we love ourselves, and with all our differences?
We can do nothing greater than the greatest commandments.
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Eric_Hyom
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At best we have faith in God, we cannot prove beyond a doubt that God exists, so how do you prove what God said or did not eay?
If we have faith in God through Jesus, we are then commanded to love our neighbours and even to pray for our enemies. How do we love Muslims as we love ourself?
If we have faith in God through Jesus, we are then commanded to love our neighbours and even to pray for our enemies. How do we love Muslims as we love ourself?
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SteveVH
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It is not a matter of proof. It is a matter of believing the words of Jesus concerning the authority given to the Church. How do you know that the Bible is the inspired word of God? Because the Church, guided by the Holy Spirit into all truth, and given the authority to bind and loose, said so. We believe the Church because we first believe Jesus and all of his promises concerning his Church.
Loving our Muslim brothers and sisters does not mean accepting the Quran as inspired. It contradicts the Christian Scriptures. It means leading them to the truth of Jesus Christ and treating them with the dignity due every person.
Peace.
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MartinJordan
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On top of what you say, Muslims are not our enemies. They are our neighbors, even as much as atheists can be our neighbors. Our real calling is to Glorify God by our lives and we can do it with Christ as our Light and our Joy. When a neighbor sees this, they might then be interested in knowing what we really believe… true dialogue can then also be forthcoming.
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Eric_Hyom
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Thanks for sharing, people don’t care what we believe, they would rather know that we care, and if we care, they might be interested in our beliefs.On top of what you say, Muslims are not our enemies. They are our neighbors, even as much as atheists can be our neighbors. Our real calling is to Glorify God by our lives and we can do it with Christ as our Light and our Joy. When a neighbor sees this, they might then be interested in knowing what we really believe… true dialogue can then also be forthcoming.
MJ
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Servant19
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MartinJordan
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Sure. But as Jesus said one will then be hated by their own family and one will have to carry one’s cross if they want to follow Him.
MJ
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simonmic
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I want to care in what you believe, but i just don’t believe in it at this time
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SteveVH
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On top of what you say, Muslims are not our enemies. They are our neighbors, even as much as atheists can be our neighbors. Our real calling is to Glorify God by our lives and we can do it with Christ as our Light and our Joy. When a neighbor sees this, they might then be interested in knowing what we really believe… true dialogue can then also be forthcoming.
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Eric_Hyom
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I have learned a lot about my Catholic faith by listening to Muslims, they pray five times a day, they take fasting seriously, modesty is a big concern, and families are important. I believe you can learn much from the 99 names of Allah.
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SteveVH
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Indeed. There are many writings from which we can learn much, but that doesn’t mean they are inspired; i.e. the word of God.
I have learned a lot about my Catholic faith by listening to Muslims, they pray five times a day, they take fasting seriously, modesty is a big concern, and families are important. I believe you can learn much from the 99 names of Allah.
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MartinJordan
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I always say 5 times a day is good. But pray at all times, is Heaven sent.
I have learned a lot about my Catholic faith by listening to Muslims, they pray five times a day, they take fasting seriously, modesty is a big concern, and families are important. I believe you can learn much from the 99 names of Allah.
MJ
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