Very critical writing against the Malankara Catholics

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Seems like an anti-Roman screed, although I am not Orthodox savvy enough to be sure.

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Hey, I get offended when people call me “Roman” Catholic, but they still do it. I gently (angrily) tell them, I am a LATIN Catholic, and the LATIN church uses the ROMAN Rite!
 
These various passages have a similar tone as much “controversy” material from all sides of the Catholic/Protestant divide.

What it boils down to is that “We’re better than them because they aren’t like us”.

I know the beginnings of pluralism were very sad at the time, but I thank God for my upbringing, from which I rather like a lot about all the churches!

Jesus did say He will create sons for Abraham out of stones and send more labourers in to the vineyard at the eleventh hour!
 
adamhovey1988 said:
Hey, I get offended when people call me “Roman” Catholic, but they still do it. I gently (angrily) tell them, I am a LATIN Catholic, and the LATIN church uses the ROMAN Rite!
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It is so easy to be offended these days.

I let most offenses slide over like water over a duck’s back.

Nothing is more offensive to an offender that when the offendee is not offended.
 
AXO said:
theorthodoxchurch.info/blog/articles/2009/08/is-the-catholicate-of-the-romo-syrians-in-india-canonically-genuine-or-bogus/

It was written by an Orthodox chorbishop. It’s to be noted that the document already starts apparently in bad terms (“Romo-Syrians”, seems derogatory). Anyone to object to it?
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I know the author very well. Was educated by the “Romo-Syrians” before turning on them. Also has interesting academic higher creds. I’d be leary if I were the venerable chorepiscopo , of calling anyone out - especially well educated and internationally recognized Malankara Syriacs of who’s institutions his Church and he personally benefited. Especially using terms like “bogus” and “phony”, glass houses and all.
 
adamhovey1988 said:
Hey, I get offended when people call me “Roman” Catholic, but they still do it. I gently (angrily) tell them, I am a LATIN Catholic, and the LATIN church uses the ROMAN Rite!
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As a Latin Catholic, you are a Roman Catholic too, as are all the Catholics whose Churches are in communion with the bishop of Rome.
 
Augustine said:
As a Latin Catholic, you are a Roman Catholic too, as are all the Catholics whose Churches are in communion with the bishop of Rome.
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That’s strange way of speaking, would it be equally correct to say all Catholics in communion with the Malankara Syriac Catholic Catholicos are Malankara Syriac? If not, the first manner is equally odd
 
Augustine said:
As a Latin Catholic, you are a Roman Catholic too, as are all the Catholics whose Churches are in communion with the bishop of Rome.
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Eastern Catholics are not Roman Catholic, as they do not use the Roman rite. This form of description to describe all Catholics is used by Protestants to emphasize that they, too, are equally part of the Catholic Church, in visible communion with it, as opposed to an imperfect one through baptism.

Augustine, as someone who just transferred into an EC church, I would urge you to be sensitive to terminology. No EC that I know of in person calls him- or herself a Roman Catholic.
 
Augustine said:
As a Latin Catholic, you are a Roman Catholic too, as are all the Catholics whose Churches are in communion with the bishop of Rome.
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I and many others (especially Melkites) reject the term Roman Catholic. I am NOT Roman Catholic!

There was much discussion on Wikipedia Catholic portal this past year, and this was recently updated there, praise God!
 
AXO said:
theorthodoxchurch.info/blog/articles/2009/08/is-the-catholicate-of-the-romo-syrians-in-india-canonically-genuine-or-bogus/

It was written by an Orthodox chorbishop. It’s to be noted that the document already starts apparently in bad terms (“Romo-Syrians”, seems derogatory). Anyone to object to it?
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The term “Romo-Syrians” leads to a bad start, right from the get-go. :rolleyes: I scanned the blog post and the usual polemic stuff sprang up, but what caught my attention was the picture of the Syro-Malankara Catholic Church’s website, where Baselios Cleemis Cardinal Thottunkal is posing for the camera as the Major Archbishop of that church.

The blog post’s author seems to be confused; he is under the impression that Eastern Catholic churches aren’t allowed to have their own patriarchs or major archbishops.

First of all, according to the Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches, the Pope (who at the time was Benedict XVI) has supreme, full, immediate and universal ordinary authority in the whole Catholic Church, which he can always freely exercise.

Second, major archbishops (but not patriarchs) have to be confirmed by the Pope before they’re allowed to take office.

Third, there are smaller Eastern Catholic churches that do not even have patriarchs, major archbishops, or metropolitans, but what is known as an Apostolic Exarch, which I understand are subject to the Holy See, and not any other head of that particular Church (for example, the Macedonian Greek Catholic Church and the Bulgarian Greek Catholic Church).

So as you can see, the author of that post is grossly misinformed and I think it is safe to ignore them.

EDIT: If any Eastern Catholic sees a mistake in what I wrote, please do let me know. 👍
 
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