Very Strong Muslim Friend

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Dear CAF,

If this is in the wrong forum, please move it 🙂

I was wondering if you could give me some advice. Where I go to school, I have this friend who is extremely devoutly Muslim, and I remember the very first time that I met him, he asked me my name, and I told him, and then he started to question me about my faith - almost immediately - like about 2 minutes after introducing himself to me. He told me things like how the Gospel of John is not from God, and how the Bible contradicts itself, and I was feeling really awkward… but I didn’t say anything back, I was just really trying to smile and talk to him normally. He just came on really strong.

I didn’t think too much of it, because there were times in my own life where I have been preachy about my own beliefs, so I wasn’t angry at this guy… then… a few months later, we were talking about something completely non-related to faith - it was about some funny joke I heard on television… then he started to question my faith again about Catholicism… and then he started to preach to me about what he believed in… and the different prophets… and he started talking really loud, I got scared a little…

My question is… do you think that I should stay away from this guy? It kinda makes me feel sad inside whenever I hear him talk about his religion. It is like he is trying to yell at me or something… it’s so uncomfortable… I have many Muslim friends, and they are so kind to me, but this particular guy… i feel so small when I am around him.

What do you think I should do?
 
1 of my best friends when I was in the fire academy, he is Muslim. We never spoke about religion. We meet 3 yrs ago. Last yr around this time he was not having a good time at home and at work, he told me, you know you and me can’t be friends. I told him if somebody told you that I said something about you, you well know I don’t speak behind others back.

He told me, no bc your catholic and I’m Muslim. That shocked the heck out of me, bc we had been great friends at the academy and once we hit the field. After he told me that I distanced myself from him. Idk why he said it, but I just set my self aside from him bc I didn’t want to start an argument with him. We last spoke in August bc we had to ride the ambulance together. After that we haven’t spoke, just bc I don’t feel their should be any talks between us
 
NguyenKimPhat said:
Dear CAF,

If this is in the wrong forum, please move it 🙂

I was wondering if you could give me some advice. Where I go to school, I have this friend who is extremely devoutly Muslim, and I remember the very first time that I met him, he asked me my name, and I told him, and then he started to question me about my faith - almost immediately - like about 2 minutes after introducing himself to me. He told me things like how the Gospel of John is not from God, and how the Bible contradicts itself, and I was feeling really awkward… but I didn’t say anything back, I was just really trying to smile and talk to him normally. He just came on really strong.

I didn’t think too much of it, because there were times in my own life where I have been preachy about my own beliefs, so I wasn’t angry at this guy… then… a few months later, we were talking about something completely non-related to faith - it was about some funny joke I heard on television… then he started to question my faith again about Catholicism… and then he started to preach to me about what he believed in… and the different prophets… and he started talking really loud, I got scared a little…

My question is… do you think that I should stay away from this guy? It kinda makes me feel sad inside whenever I hear him talk about his religion. It is like he is trying to yell at me or something… it’s so uncomfortable… I have many Muslim friends, and they are so kind to me, but this particular guy… i feel so small when I am around him.

What do you think I should do?
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Tell him if he wants to be friends that is fine but you won’t discuss religion with him. Sounds like you got hold of a fire cracker. Personally, I stay away from them altogether. 👍
 
yea, this is great, lets keep pitting each other against each other, wonderfull…

NOT, you people are fools, to put this up for no better reason than to incite bigotry and hate.

this has to be the most terrible thing that you people could possible have done, if you cant say something good to unite and defuse the issue of hate and bigotry, then dont.

Pointing out the faults of others, fault finding of others is a mortal sin, its a sin you can run into a confessional and ask God to forgive you, but, it an unforgivable sin for its a sin as spreading feathers, you cant go back and heal it…

you cant reason or justify this sin, nor can you heal it,
if somebody hates us, it doesn come to be justified by inciting hate back towards them, nor ill will. wishing others ill will, is a sin…
if they hate you for being Catholic, in the islamic world, the US with its unjustified wars of the past decades is a very good reason to the people.

You explain to these people what basis exists for the British to seize the land of israil from the islamic and give it to the Jewish. you will never find one, nor why the US military flys over countires and executes people and promotes a hate towards the Islamic, for it well gives many a reason to hate Catholics in a mere realtiy of the facts.
 
the issue of the US military today being equated to christian is giving christians around the world a very bad name, that is the point that is undeniable a fact. and the cowards of leaders are too ignorant to stand up against what is not a justified war, enslavement o f people in debt, and attrocities against human rights of people to chose for themself who they should have for a leader.

the muslim friend was and is educated to the world, you are not.
 
wanabesaint said:
the issue of the US military today being equated to christian is giving christians around the world a very bad name, that is the point that is undeniable a fact. and the cowards of leaders are too ignorant to stand up against what is not a justified war, enslavement o f people in debt, and attrocities against human rights of people to chose for themself who they should have for a leader.

the muslim friend was and is educated to the world, you are not.
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I’m sorry, who’s the fool?
 
My very dearest friend is Muslim, she and her husband were there for me in a time of great need where those I went to church with were not. We’ve had discussions on religion—where we agree and where we do not. I would not have these talks with a Muslim man—yes, I’ve talked with her husband about history, politics, etc, but not religion. The way you describe this friend, I think you need to a. be stronger in what the Church teaches and why so you can answer, or b. you need to find the answers and come back to him. If he’s anything like my friend’s husband, he knows his religion and he knows what he’s been taught, but he will give you a chance to seek answers (from your priest/the catechism) and come back to him.
 
Hi!

This seems to me like a personality issue rather than a religious issue. Yes, he is very vocal about his beliefs, but I’m willing to bet that if he were a Lakers fan and he found out you’re a Bulls guy, chances are he’d end up preaching to you about that as well.

There are just people with strong personalities, very passionate about their beliefs (religious or otherwise) to the point of sometimes overstepping boundaries. Like you said, your other Muslim friends are nice to you, so it’s obviously not a religious thing.

Me, I would probably end up avoiding him. Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing against Muslims – I have plenty of good Muslim friends, among them a college roommate of four years. I would avoid him though because I’m pretty onion-skinned and confrontation-averse. I don’t do well around confrontational people, whether they confront about serious stuff like religion or politics, or about petty stuff like sports, grammar or the stuff I wear.

So if you want to avoid him because he intimidates you (and not because of your religious differences), I think it’s fine. Your personalities don’t match, and that’s something you can’t force whether you agree on things or not.
 
NguyenKimPhat said:
Dear CAF,

If this is in the wrong forum, please move it 🙂

I was wondering if you could give me some advice. Where I go to school, I have this friend who is extremely devoutly Muslim, and I remember the very first time that I met him, he asked me my name, and I told him, and then he started to question me about my faith - almost immediately - like about 2 minutes after introducing himself to me. He told me things like how the Gospel of John is not from God, and how the Bible contradicts itself, and I was feeling really awkward… but I didn’t say anything back, I was just really trying to smile and talk to him normally. He just came on really strong.

I didn’t think too much of it, because there were times in my own life where I have been preachy about my own beliefs, so I wasn’t angry at this guy… then… a few months later, we were talking about something completely non-related to faith - it was about some funny joke I heard on television… then he started to question my faith again about Catholicism… and then he started to preach to me about what he believed in… and the different prophets… and he started talking really loud, I got scared a little…

My question is… do you think that I should stay away from this guy? It kinda makes me feel sad inside whenever I hear him talk about his religion. It is like he is trying to yell at me or something… it’s so uncomfortable… I have many Muslim friends, and they are so kind to me, but this particular guy… i feel so small when I am around him.

What do you think I should do?
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If you do decide to engage him, these might prove helpful:

catholic.com/video/evangelizing-muslims

catholic.com/radio/shows/how-to-answer-muslims-4281

catholic.com/radio/shows/qa-open-forum-7524
 
Just thinking about him… i don’t know… he made me very sad that day…

I just don’t want to be around him - why do i need to put myself in this position any more? I just want to avoid him. I am so tired with school and everything.
 
If someone makes you feel badly about yourself the best thing to do is stay away, especially in situations like this. Keeping of good spirits is important so that there is not an opportunity for the enemy. Be encouraged by fellowship with other Catholics (like here:D) and some other fellow Christians instead.

He may be trying to “convert” you by more or less “attacking” your beliefs. If the situation were reversed, he would not talk to you at all and he would get very upset if you said one negative thing **about a single letter **of the Qu’ran. If he is the type that won’t even read a Bible verse or look at the Catechism, witnessing to him would prove very difficult but there is a teeny tiny bit of common ground if you chose to try and do so.

In a nutshell, Muslims accept the Virgin birth of Jesus and also accept Moses, Abraham, and Jesus as Holy but only as “prophets” or “messengers.” They do not really have a concept of the Holy Spirit and therefore reject the Trinity. They see it as blasphemous to associate any other entity to God and do not recognize that Jesus actually died on the cross (they maintain that he only “appeared” to die). Most are looking for a “Mahdi” (Messiah) to return for judgement, but some Muslim sects have different views as to who that will be for them. Most of them believe that Muhammad was their “last” messenger, but not all sects maintain that, either.
 
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