Very Uncomfortable Mass; Liturgical Abuse?

[ImmaculataFides]

Report it to who?

The Jesuits charism is evangelization, missionary work, education, not liturgy. they work by inculturation. Wherever they work they dress, live and eat as the local people. Their job is not to present the Roman point of view, but to work with the people where they are at.

The Jesuits are answerable directly to the Pope.

They are the Vatican’s Storm Troopers.

They are different from other orders. The way they live, pray and work are different.

If I was the OP I would just feel privileged to be invited to the Supper of the Lord with them in their house.

This post is ridiculous. Priests are supposed to be trained how to say the Mass. This typical modernist priest is filling the liturgy with abuses which is blatantly sacrilegious, and makes a mockery of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. The Jesuits used to be the Vatican’s storm troopers. Until they embraced modernism.

Through the Hearts of Jesus and Mary,

ImmaculataFides.

 

[ImmaculataFides]

The good Jesuits are exempt from most of Canon law and in their own houses are not bound or governed by the GIRM — they would default to the norms for Jesuits.

Sorry, but that’s rubbish.

 

[superamazingman]

Report it to who?

The Jesuits charism is evangelization, missionary work, education, not liturgy. they work by inculturation. Wherever they work they dress, live and eat as the local people. Their job is not to present the Roman point of view, but to work with the people where they are at.

The Jesuits are answerable directly to the Pope.

They are the Vatican’s Storm Troopers.

They are different from other orders. The way they live, pray and work are different.

If I was the OP I would just feel privileged to be invited to the Supper of the Lord with them in their house.

It sure shows that they don’t care about the liturgy.

The most important thing a priest does is celebrate Mass. Part of being a vatican storm trooper is celebrating the Mass well. If they don’t want to “present the roman point of view” (ie, celebrate the Mass according to the books), then they should have become priests in the ROMAN Catholic church.

If you are faithful in little things, you will be faithful in large ones.

 

[mgoforth]

The good Jesuits are exempt from most of Canon law and in their own houses are not bound or governed by the GIRM — they would default to the norms for Jesuits.

Huh? I’m no expert, but somehow I doubt this… Please give us some documentation to support this claim or admit that none exists.

I tried searching for “Jesuit exempt canon law” on Google…and the only relevant result that came back was your quote above from this post!

 

[TheRealJuliane]

The good Jesuits are exempt from most of Canon law and in their own houses are not bound or governed by the GIRM — they would default to the norms for Jesuits.

What about the bad Jesuits?

 

[Zosimus41]

Billy,

Ironically Jesuit Preists should be like the marine’s of the preisthood but Ive seen this before myself.

I know thats a blanketed statement and only pertains to my small corner of the world and Its certainlly not my intention to say all Jesuit Preists dont abide by church rules with in the mass but I have witnessed it in my small corner of the world. During a mass which included electric guitar drums etc… and as the preist clapped and moved around on the santuary steps to the beat he proudly exlaimed he was of Jesuit order (which caught me surprise) I might add.

I now go to a Latin Mass where there is no loud music,holding hands, people throwing the orans posture back up to the preist, extra ordinary ministers giving out blessings and passing out the Eucharist.

I am Catholic and if I wanted a church service where I could jump around clap and laugh I would join the baptist of penticostals.

Liken the church to the company you work for. Most fortune 500 companies have rules, procedures,attendance and dress codes in place to be successful if everyone worked the way the felt like working it would be chaos. Probably not much work would be done and the company would fold.

 

[superamazingman]

Ironically Jesuit Preists should be like the marine’s of the preisthood but Ive seen this before myself.

Indeed, they should be, but so many times, they aren’t. A marine fulfills the missions and commands entrusted to him with absolute precision, and would certainly never slack off, or change it because he thinks he know better.

Every priest is given and accepts the following mission at his ordination, jesuit or not:

Are you resolved to celebrate the mysteries of Christ faithfully and religiously as the Church has handed them down to us. R/ I am.

See that? “as the Church has handed them down to us” not “as you wish to” or "as the Church has handed them down, with ‘pastoral adaptations’ ".

They need to take up this mission. It is one I must say that they’ve utterly failed at as a whole for the last 50 years.