Was God silent from the time of Adam to Mosses?

[tukfryer]

I want to start a thread that both catholics and protestants can comment on and hopefully we can all share information without to much blood shed.

May non Jesus believers today use the notion that Christianity has simply taken from previous cultures. The birth of a savior from a woman is one theme that is easy to locate in ancient “pre Mosses” cultures. This will not be a sola scripture discussion I encourage the use of apocrypha books such as Enoch, and any other sources of information that is relevant to the topic. We will be discussing the pillar of Enoch. The pillar of Enoch is what the Egypt’s called the great pyramid. We will also be looking into the original names of the visible stars and constellations to see what we find. The visible stars names from are still used today, the names are also found in in the tongue of many languages today. But they hold the same meaning. I believe this is evidence of the tower of babel. There is nothing older than the names of the stars.

I propose that God first wrote, taught His message of salvation in the stars. Next He prophesied in stone the time He would call Mosses and Exodus Egypt, the time and place of the coming of Jesus both recorded in the GP. There are no written words in the GP, no God used the language of mathematics based on the alignment of a pole star something that can not be misinterpreted like language. A bit of knowledge about the procession of the earths 26 thousand year cycle is necessary. There are only 2 times in history that the a pole star “north star” has shown down the descending passage of the GP. In 2141 B.C. the star Draconis found in the dragon constellation was the north star, we know today with math the exact minute this a cured. Do you understand my point their is no way that someone can forge or manipulate this alignment it is also information or a testimony that was perhaps lost and then found because of mans knowledge today. The pole star now Polaris, because of the procession of the earth has recently aliened its self with the passage in 2004. The second time a star has shone it light to the bottom of the great pyramids descending passage, of the passage in 4500 years. Descending like in the decent of man. But the ascending passage marks the Exodus, or God changing mans direction threw Mosses 1453 BC. Notice that the passage is plugged with granite stones the law of God written on stone and given to Mosses. Now the ascending passage is low and narrow until it gets to the grand gallery where it opens up some 28 feet high at exactly the date that Jesus died on the cross. The passages in the Egyptian book of the dead are named “The hall of truth in darkness” from the granite plugs to the grand gallery. From their the passage is called “the hall of truth in light” To go up this passage the hall of truth in darkness a man must be bent over as if he is carrying a burden, under the law until you reach the point of Jesus the hall of truth in light where you can stand up right. At this point you are looking straight at the queens chamber hallway and at 26.3 upward you look upward to the kings chamber entrance.

Isaiah 19:19 In that day there will be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar to the LORD at its border. 20 And it will be for a sign and for a witness to the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt;

The stone the builders rejected has become the chief corner stone. The GP has no capstone a CHIEF corner stone can only be the capstone of a pyramid. Drawing all four corners together at its peak.

The Spinx also plays a minor roll in this message. Their is an Egyptian horoscope “12 signs 12 tribes 12 disciples” that has the spinx looking outward right between virgo and leo. There are dozens of small spinxs that have been found many have the head of a woman “breast included” and the body and tail of a lion, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, Jesus.

I hope that I have sparked some interest in this subject I find it very useful. Knowledge of Gods bread trail from the fall of Adam and Eve to the coming of Mosses “Gods written Word” can still be seen. This knowledge will also bring to light the things like the Greek gods and there origin. Also why ancient cultures appear to have similar accounts of the message we find in the bible. From the heaven that declare the glory of God, Day unto day utters speech, And night unto night reveals knowledge. To written in stone in the great pyramid, to the written word of God the bible, the trail of Gods message.

Psalm 19
1 The heavens declare the glory of God;
And the firmament shows His handiwork.
2 Day unto day utters speech,
And night unto night reveals knowledge.
3 There is no speech nor language
Where their voice is not heard.
4 Their line[a] has gone out through all the earth,
And their words to the end of the world.

Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them,

manifest in what? the stars perhaps.

for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, Invisible attributes are clearly seen, so they without excuse. 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God,

**Is Paul referring to the message in the stars? They knew God but did not glorify Him as God. What is clear Paul is referring to a common source of knowledge, one that was known both by Jews and Gentiles. **

nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.

 

[tukfryer]

You will find information from sources with slight differences in dates, from the GP. It took me awhile but I discovered that in the mid 1800s when this information was uncovered, one researcher used measurements that were from the center of the descending passage not the floor. You know were dealing with math and measurements why cant two people read the same length on a tape measure? But I discovered why.

Basic staring point links below.
asis.com/users/stag/zodiac.html

Part 1 goes over some of the remarkable facts about the GP. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
Part 2 begins to outline the bible message in the measurements. These are the dates that are measured from the floor, man does walk on the ground not in the air.
Thanks for reading this I hope that someone is interested in expanding their knowledge of history threw the lens of Jesus.

Part 1
europa.com/~edge/pyramid.html
Part 2
europa.com/~edge/giza.html

 

[Crumpy]

The title question “threw me” because it seems so obvious. God was not silent. Didn’t he make covenants with Noah and Abraham, somewhere in there? The answer seems obvious…until I started reading all this astrological stuff.

The astronomical data may be been a way of expressing truths that are otherwise independently knowable. My hunch is that you can overlay whatever meaning you want on the stars. you would have to be a real exegete to interpret what scripture means about the signs in the heavens.

Elsewhere, in Rev 12, John seems to be talking about an interpretation of an astronomical event, the constellation Virgo (the Virgin) at sunrise (“arrayed with the sun”) near the horizon.

By the way, what is “GP” for us uninitiated?

 

[tukfryer]

Bump

Well if no one is interested or its a topic that my be taboo for some I’ll just add some more information. You wont be hearing about any of this on the history channel or from Dr. Zahi Hawass, head of Egypt’s Supreme Council of Antiquities. Hes quite sure someone was buried in that pyramid even though their is not one piece of evidence or so much as one Egyptian hieroglyph in it.

Although the Pharoah in whose reign the Great Pyramid was built, was Khufu (Cheops), second king of the 4th dynasty, all the evidence supports the record of Herodotus that “strangers to Egypt” supervised the building of the Great Pyramid.
Herodotus, who has been called “The father of History,” wrote that Cheops reigned 50 years, and that his brother Cephren, who succeeded him, reigned 56 years. Thus, he adds, “106 years are reckoned, during which the Egyptians suffered all kinds of calamities; and for this length of time the temples were closed and never opened.”
Manetho, an Egyptian priest, explains that the temples were closed during the time of the Shepherd Kings (Cory’s Ancient Fragments. Pg. 68). He writes, “…there came up from the East, in a strange manner, men of an ignoble race, who had the confidence to invade our country, and easily subdued it by their power, without a battle. All this nation,” continues Manetho, “was styled Hycsos, the Shepherd Kings. The first syllable, ‘Hyc’, according to the sacred dialect denoted a king, and the ‘sos’ signifies a shepherd according to the vulgar tougue; and of these is compounded the term Hycsos.
Upon completion of the Great Pyramid, ancient writings of the historians say that the “foreign” people withdrew and their departure was the cause of great rejoicing among the Egyptians. The restraint being removed, the people returned with fresh zest to their idolatrous practices.

Here’s an other piece of trivial information. I have read some talking about Christmas, celebrating Jesus birth. Lots of cultures have solar windows lets say, a hole in a rock or a doorway the faces the east. In many they mark or center the winter solstice with a mark of some kind. What is interesting to me is that watching the suns movement with such a homemade device, the sun appears to stand still for 3 days. You cant detect its movement with the naked eye, you need more sophisticated tools. It would look to me like the sun dies for three days, just as Jesus did, then begins its march upwards in the other direction indicating longer days, and rising to its full glory at the summer solstice.

Solstice determination

Unlike the equinox, the solstice time is not easy to determine. The changes in Solar declination become smaller as the sun gets closer to its maximum/minimum declination. The days before and after the solstice, the declination speed is less than 30 arcseconds/day which is less than 1/60th of the angular size of the sun, or the equivalent to just 2 seconds of right ascension.

This difference is hardly detectable with indirect viewing based devices like sextant equipped with a vernier, and impossible with more traditional tools like a gnomon[10] or an astrolabe. It is also hard to detect the changes on sunrise/sunset azimuth due to the atmospheric refraction changes. Those accuracy issues render impossible to determine the solstice day based on observations made within the 3 (or even 5) days surrounding the solstice, without the use of more complex tools.

Ptolemy used an approximation method based on interpolation, which is still used by some amateurs. This method consists of recording the declination angle at noon during some days before and after the solstice, trying to find two separate days with the same declination. When those two days are found, the halfway time between both noons is estimated solstice time. An interval of 45 days has been postulated, as the best one to achieve up to a quarter-day precision, in the solstice determination.

To the good old boys, back in the day the sun stood still for 3 days. Just as Jesus lay in the tomb for 3 days. I would say that the winter solstice best describes His death and resurrection not His birth.

 

[tukfryer]

The title question “threw me” because it seems so obvious. God was not silent. Didn’t he make covenants with Noah and Abraham, somewhere in there? The answer seems obvious…until I started reading all this astrological stuff.

The astronomical data may be been a way of expressing truths that are otherwise independently knowable. My hunch is that you can overlay whatever meaning you want on the stars. you would have to be a real exegete to interpret what scripture means about the signs in the heavens.

Elsewhere, in Rev 12, John seems to be talking about an interpretation of an astronomical event, the constellation Virgo (the Virgin) at sunrise (“arrayed with the sun”) near the horizon.

By the way, what is “GP” for us uninitiated?

GP is great pyramid.
If your hunch is that you can what ever you like then language is useless. Words have an origin and a meaning.

The G pyramid on the other hand does not use words. It uses mathematics and a star alignment as a reference point of origin. Now if you wanted to preserve a message about a curtain date in time and indicate its importance the GP is the perfect example. You can not change the time the star was lined up, you can not alter the unit of measure. So God had constructed the most complex building the world have ever known. It was not surpassed in height until the eiffel tower tower was built. I would encourage you to read the 2 links I provided.