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Pathway2
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Did scripture like Romans later works come into Exsistance as just a series of letters against Heresies? did they use oral tradition more?
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Tulitas
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They were written by Paul and his followers.
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Ron_Conte
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Divine Revelation came first, before the magisterium. Of course, the OT books were revealed prior to Christ. In the early Church, the NT books, including the letters, were passed around by the faithful, and gradually came to be understood as also the Word of God. The use of these books in the Church is what brought the Magisterium to the understanding as to which ones were inspired and canonical.
Tradition, according to Vatican II, is “the deeds wrought by God in the history of salvation” (Dei Verbum 2). Tradition is unwritten truths because it is deeds. And we could extend the deeds of God in salvation history to include those deeds prior to the writing of Scripture, for certainly the deeds happened before they could be written down. So Tradition is first, then Scripture, then the Magisterium.
Tradition, according to Vatican II, is “the deeds wrought by God in the history of salvation” (Dei Verbum 2). Tradition is unwritten truths because it is deeds. And we could extend the deeds of God in salvation history to include those deeds prior to the writing of Scripture, for certainly the deeds happened before they could be written down. So Tradition is first, then Scripture, then the Magisterium.
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valegrete
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I would highly recommend reading Dei Verbum as it’s relatively short and goes over this in a really clear way 
Divine Revelation (how God communicates His plan to us) exists in two forms: Scripture and Tradition. Scripture originally being all the OT works written through the Prophets, and Tradition being all the truths that the Apostles received personally from our Lord (some of which later became Scripture as well).
The whole “divine wellspring” of Revelation was entrusted to the Church herself to safeguard, defend, and teach as her Deposit of Faith. The job of the Magisterium is to authentically interpret and hand on this treasure to every subsequent generation.
Specifically regarding your question, you’ll notice a lot of Paul’s epistles contain prayers and catechetical formulae, especially if your Bible formats those parts differently. This is because his epistles were usually written to remind communities of what he had already communicated to them orally. The faith was originally transmitted entirely in this way.
Divine Revelation (how God communicates His plan to us) exists in two forms: Scripture and Tradition. Scripture originally being all the OT works written through the Prophets, and Tradition being all the truths that the Apostles received personally from our Lord (some of which later became Scripture as well).
The whole “divine wellspring” of Revelation was entrusted to the Church herself to safeguard, defend, and teach as her Deposit of Faith. The job of the Magisterium is to authentically interpret and hand on this treasure to every subsequent generation.
Specifically regarding your question, you’ll notice a lot of Paul’s epistles contain prayers and catechetical formulae, especially if your Bible formats those parts differently. This is because his epistles were usually written to remind communities of what he had already communicated to them orally. The faith was originally transmitted entirely in this way.
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fredystairs
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If we are talking of Tradition as the works of God, then yes I would agree that it came first.
If we are talking that Tradition is the teaching of the Church, then I would respectfully disagree that it came first. In this case I would say that the Magisterium of the Church comes first. It is from the Magisterium that we get Tradition, those teachings that the Church had the authority to proclaim. The Scripture, that part of Tradition which is written down, comes last. This can be seen from the fact that it would be 20 to 30 years after the death of Christ before the first book of what would become the New Teastanent was written. Further it would not be until the end of the Fourth Century that the Canon of the New Testament would be decided on. Thus, the Magisterium and Tradition came before the Scripture.
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If we are talking that Tradition is the teaching of the Church, then I would respectfully disagree that it came first. In this case I would say that the Magisterium of the Church comes first. It is from the Magisterium that we get Tradition, those teachings that the Church had the authority to proclaim. The Scripture, that part of Tradition which is written down, comes last. This can be seen from the fact that it would be 20 to 30 years after the death of Christ before the first book of what would become the New Teastanent was written. Further it would not be until the end of the Fourth Century that the Canon of the New Testament would be decided on. Thus, the Magisterium and Tradition came before the Scripture.
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