Weird Prophecy Interpretation

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Hi! So, unfortunately I stumbled upon a weird site a few weeks ago, and this kinda stuck with me. It’s some weird interpretation of the seven churches of Revelation, and I couldn’t seem to find any refutations. It appears to be a somewhat common argument, but I surprisingly could not find any arguments against it. http://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception-Revelation_letter_seven-churches It claims that each church is symbolic of a different point of Christian history, and charges the usual “sun-worship” claims. If anybody could make light of it and/or expose it, that would be wonderful!
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Revelations is the Mass.

It’s not some bizarre and fantastic futuristic telling of things. Scott Hahn’s materials on Revelations is the most accessible since he’s approching with some of the same knowledge that one being educated typically would have as he came from a Protestant background.
 
I was planning on ordering those for my birthday, actually. It seems very interesting! But can’t it be both?
 
Read Hahn first. I think that it will answer many of your questions on the “both” issue. I’m not educated enough to refute your first post it detail, but it clearly seems like a bunch of hooey and misinformation packaged with a few alluring “facts”. By the time you’re done with GOOD materials you’ll probably see that the theory holds as much water as an old sock.
 
The interpretation that the Seven Churches of Asia represent consecutive eras in Church history is pretty common among Evangelicals; I was very familiar with it in my “previous life”. Even back then the problem that I found with this interpretation was that in any given “era” of Church history, one could find individual congregations that matched the characteristics of all seven churches, and within any given congregation in any given era, one could find individuals whose characteristics matched those of all seven churches.

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There are no prophesies. Christ is the fulfillment of all prophecy.

As Xan said, Revelation is about THE MASS.
 
The seven churches = seven eras of history interpretation isn’t actually an evangelical thing. It goes back to medieval times. But it’s never been particularly satisfactory as an interpretation, because the problems and strengths of the seven churches are so universal. As a lot of people have pointed out, it makes more sense to make a connection to St. Paul’s letters to various churches, or to remember that seven is the number of completion and thus 7 churches symbolize the One Church as a whole.

Now, the medieval interpretation probably comes from St. Augustine’s seven eras of history, which show up in many of his books and treatises. But he counted the eras of history as starting from Adam, with only a few Christian times included in the eras. Obviously that didn’t fit the seven churches very well, so people made up their own. And as time has advanced, people continue to change the length of their eras.

The seven churches were historical churches with historical problems. The best way for most Christians to interpret the seven letters to the seven churches is the obvious way that most prophecy works – as moral instruction and dire warning. Do the good things that the members of the seven churches were praised for doing. Avoid doing the bad things, or stop doing them and repent.

People talk about Revelation being confusing, but then they ignore the parts that are simple.
 
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Hi!

I do believe that the Seven Churches are about the Church in time (not just history); as with most prophecies, there are elements that are directly related to the Prophet’s timeline, either happening during the Prophet’s lifespan or within its near future; yet, there’s also the futuristic Unfolding… in the book of Psalms we have David prophesying about Jesus’ Crucifixion… clearly, he himself did not experience crucifixion, yet hundreds of years later it happened just as it was prophesied.

The Church has suffered throughout time many assaults and turmoil–there were times when even Priests were poorly catechized… so the Apocalyptic Prophecy is not limited to actual physical churches under St. John’s Bishopric.

…as for anti-Christian espousing paganism with Christianity… take it with a grain of salt; it is hard to lose… specially when you are a sore-loser–they are still hurting because the Church stole December 25 from some pagan ritual.

Maran atha!

Angel
 
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as moral instruction and dire warning. Do the good things that the members of the seven churches were praised for doing. Avoid doing the bad things, or stop doing them and repent.
Hi, Mintaka!

This is precisely what people do not want to hear (specially non-Believers); people do not want to be held accountable for their rejection of God’s Authority; yet, they want to enjoy the Promise (Salvation in Jesus Christ).

It is also more convenient to use “don’t understand” or “so confusing” or “a good God would not…” as the excuse for not Believing/Obeying.

Maran atha!

Angel
 
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