Were these some of the final thoughts of Steve Jobs?

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′′I reached the peak of success in the business world. My life is the epitome of success in the opinion of others.

But, I have nothing to be happy about except work. In the end, wealth is just a reality of life that I am used to.

It was then, lying on a sick bed reminiscing my whole life, I realized all the recognition and the wealth that I was very proud of, became pale and meaningless in the face of the impending death.

You can hire someone to drive for you and make money for you, but you can’t make someone else take the illness from you. Lost substance can be found. But there is one thing that can never be found when lost -”life".

When a person enters the operating room, he will find that there is a book that has not yet been read - ′′ The Healthy Living Book ". No matter what stage of life we are in right now, over time we will face the day when the curtain falls. Cherish the family that loves you, love your spouse, love your friends… be kind to yourself.

As we age, we gradually realize that wearing a $300 or $30 watch - they all tell me at the same time.

Whether we carry $300 or $30 purse / handbag - the money inside is the same.

Whether we drive a $150 k car or a $30,000 car, the road and distance are the same and we reach the same destination.

Whether we drink a $300 bottle or a $10 bottle of wine - hangover is the same.

The house we live in 300 sq ft or 3000 sq ft - loneliness is the same.

You will realize that your true inner happiness does not come from the material things of this world.

Whether you take a plane first or an economy class, if the plane collapses - you’ll go with the flow.

Therefore, I hope you can recognize that when you have a partner, buddy, old friend, sibling, you talk, laugh, talk, sing, talk about North East Southwest or Heaven and Earth… that is true happiness!!”

A bit secular and earth-bound, but still, words to ponder in the light of faith.
 
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aroosi said:
It is a fake
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That very well could be, though what I posted is not exactly the same as what Snopes cites. Obviously I thought it was a genuine quote, otherwise I wouldn’t have posted it.

I’m going to leave it up with the understanding that it is “attributed to Steve Jobs”, and undeniably it contains a lot of wisdom worth pondering. There are people in the world who think that accumulating wealth is the primary or even sole purpose of life.
 
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aroosi:
@HomeschoolDad more on the topic. It would be interesting to know what made him say ‘OH WOW’ three times at the moment of death.

The Rumors—and Truth—Behind Steve Jobs' Last Words | Reader's Digest
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The topic is “the last words of Steve Jobs (attributed)”. I think I am entirely on topic.

I agree, it would be interesting to know what Steve saw that made him say that.
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You’ve falsely attributed words to Steve Jobs which he verifiably did not say. This would’ve been a simple fact-check before posting. If you want to discuss the merit of the words, do it without the false attribution.
 
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aroosi:
@HomeschoolDad more on the topic. It would be interesting to know what made him say ‘OH WOW’ three times at the moment of death.
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The topic is “the last words of Steve Jobs (attributed) ”. I think I am entirely on topic.

I agree, it would be interesting to know what Steve saw that made him say that.
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You’ve falsely attributed words to Steve Jobs which he verifiably did not say. This would’ve been a simple fact-check before posting. If you want to discuss the merit of the words, do it without the false attribution.
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Is it verified that he did not say this? Perhaps not on his deathbed — that would be a pretty elaborate soliloquy — but perhaps as he anticipated his death coming sooner rather than later? Do we have any way to know that he did not write this at some point? How do you prove a negative — especially when Steve is dead and cannot tell us the truth? The only thing that is “provable” is that he didn’t say or write it on his deathbed.

I’m leaving it as it is. We don’t know that he did write it, and we don’t know that he didn’t write it.

I have also tweaked the topic line accordingly.
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I’m leaving it as it is. We don’t know that he did write it, and we don’t know that he didn’t write it.
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His actual final words were “Please don’t let HomeschoolDad falsely attribute quotes to me”. You can’t prove that’s false.
 
Dan123 said:
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HomeschoolDad:
I’m leaving it as it is. We don’t know that he did write it, and we don’t know that he didn’t write it.
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His actual final words were “Please don’t let HomeschoolDad falsely attribute quotes to me”. You can’t prove that’s false.
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Shhh!!! How in the world did you find that out? He was supposed to take that secret to the grave!
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Okay, one more time, let’s back up:
  • It’s a profound passage that, if he didn’t write it, he could have, and perhaps he should have
  • Either he wrote it and left it behind (not necessarily on his deathbed), or someone with a creative writing streak decided that it was worth it, to write this, and then make up a colossal lie about Steve Jobs having said or written it
  • We can’t know one way or the other
  • Therefore, with all this in mind, it might be good to take the attribution to Steve Jobs with a grain of salt, but nevertheless, to see it as a profound soliloquy worth reading
That’s all there is to it.
 
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Either he wrote it and left it behind (not necessarily on his deathbed), or someone with a creative writing streak decided that it was worth it, to write this, and then make up a colossal lie about Steve Jobs having said or written it
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It’s almost 100% for certain this.

This is a really common trend on the internet. People attribute quasi-spiritual or quasi-wise sounding things to famous people, to get others to take something seriously.

It’s one thing to post such words you want to talk about, another to participate in perpetuating the myth that they were said by a specific famous person.

Leaving in any suggestion that anyone should think the words even might have been said by the famous person, seems to me to be participating in perpetuating a falsehood.

We don’t get to say “Well someone could have written X and perhaps even should have, so I’m going to choose to believe that he did, and encourage others to imagine that he did.”

Also, the quote is actually kind of insulting to attribute to the dead man. It puts regrets in his mouth, and attributes a lifetime of ignorance about some really basic and obvious things, that we have no reason for believing he felt or experienced. Maybe Steve Jobs knew perfectly well that both $300 watches and $30 watches tell the same time. (In fact, it’d be an insult to the man to suggest he didn’t. It’s an insult that makes him out to have been some childishly cartoon version of a wickedly ignorant rich person. Again, this quote is pretty insulting to put in his mouth, especially when it’s a debunked myth.)
 
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HomeschoolDad said:
  • t’s a profound passage that, if he didn’t write it, he could have, and perhaps he should have
  • Either he wrote it and left it behind (not necessarily on his deathbed), or someone with a creative writing streak decided that it was worth it, to write this, and then make up a colossal lie about Steve Jobs having said or written it
  • We can’t know one way or the other
  • Therefore, with all this in mind, it might be good to take the attribution to Steve Jobs with a grain of salt, but nevertheless, to see it as a profound soliloquy worth reading
That’s all there is to it.
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False dichotomy. Someone could have written it, then someone else could have falsely attributed it to Jobs. I get what you’re saying but a lot of people are uncomfortable with perpetuating a likely falsehood. It depends where one draws the line, is simply not knowing it’s false enough to spread the information, or does one have any obligation to try and verify things first.
 
Also as I got a bit serious in the last few posts, for levity:

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MNathaniel said:
this quote is pretty insulting to put in his mouth, especially when it’s a debunked myth.)
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This is true. Would it have been better to simply recommend this as words of wisdom worth pondering? (and leave out any false attribution).
 
AlNg said:
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MNathaniel:
this quote is pretty insulting to put in his mouth, especially when it’s a debunked myth.)
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This is true. Would it have been better to simply recommend this as words of wisdom worth pondering ? (and leave out any false attribution).
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Personally I’d say yes. Whoever wrote these lines, I think much of it is a perfectly good prompt for reflection.

It’s just putting the words in a dead man’s mouth (when the words inherently attribute a cartoonish level of ignorance and other sad traits to him) that leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
 
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Some good responses here. I have been extremely explicit about how this quote should be approached. Make of it what you will. I do invite the moderators to take this topic down if they feel it is inappropriate.

Padre Pio had all sorts of things attributed to him — it is as though everyone, theological progressives, mainstream Catholics, traditionalists, what have you, all “want a piece of him”. Much of what you see attributed to him, you have to take with a grain of salt. And he’s not around to say “I did say that” or “I never said that”.
 
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