What agrument/defense to use when dealing with an Antitransubtiationalist?

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How would you explain to an Antitransubtiationalist that even though the bread & wine retain the same physical properties, it is changed to the actual body & blood of Christ during a Catholic Mass?

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Sir_Knight said:
How would you explain to an Antitransubtiationalist that even though the bread & wine retain the same physical properties, it is changed to the actual body & blood of Christ during a Catholic Mass?

Thanks in advance.
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First, we have to realize that not everyone who does not use transubstantiation to describe the miracle of the Eucharist opposes the concept of the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist. It is important to know where they are coming from, or your efforts and words may be wasted.

I don’t bother explaining it or arguing the point. It is a mystery, a paradox to us and a miracle.

God’s ways are not our ways, if we understood everything, we would be God. To even think we could understand everything, or explain everything is the height of arrogance.

Just tell them what you believe, and why. Leave the rest to the Holy Spirit.

Michael
 
Well, the official definition of a “antitransubtiationalist” is one who doubts that consecrated bread and wine actually change into the body and blood of Christ.

I recall reading an excellent article on the subject on how things can retain the same physical properties but be something else but can’t seem to find it now.
 
May I suggest a good reference to read…“The Blessed Eucharist” by Fr. Michael Muller, C.S.S.R

It has a Imprimatur of 1867 and is a worthy book.

james
 
Bread changes into flesh all the time on a natural level it’s called the digestive system.
 
But when that happens, a chemical changes occurs. This was an online article about substances and stuff which explained it very well.
 
It’s a miracle worked by the same God who said, “Let there be light” and light was made 👍
 
Don’t get hung up on this. Transsubstantiation is a concept created by Aristotelian philosophy to “explain” the words of Christ at the Pascal dinner before his crucifixtion. The concept itself is not necessarily Christian much less Catholic. It is a mistake to try to explain transsubstatiation without first laying a solid groundwork in Aristotelian philosophy and most have neither the time nor the training to do that. The concept of pearls before swine comes to mind.
Try telling the person that Catholics believe that Christ is somehow especially present in the Eucharist. There is no way to explain how the omnipresent can be especially present in any given place or time.
God exists outside of physical reality. It is difficult enough to believe that S/He cares about us individually much less how S/He interacts with this world of ours.
In the Father’s Love,
Matthew
 
We offer ourselves to him as the Church he formed,and join with him in the sacrifice He made for us/ We are called to be united with Christ as Priest and as Victim.In SC (Sacrosanctum Convivium) we should not only join with the Priest in offering the ‘Immaculate Victim’ but also that they should offer themselves.Christ comes to us under the appearance of Bread and Wine and it is spiritucally transformed into what John says is the Bread of Life (6:35) (He who eats this Bread and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day**)The Eucharist is the New Passover in which God’s new and greater liberation is celebrated and Christ himself is our Passover Meal.;As the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father,so he who eats me will live because of me (CCC1391)
So to quoteE.L.Mascall in Corpus Christi The Whole Christ offers the Whole Christ.
 
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