What caused the conflict between science and religion?

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What caused the conflict between science and religion?

If you look at the history of science many scientists were religious people, even Darwin. So what happened?
 
What caused the conflict between science and religion?

If you look at the history of science many scientists were religious people, even Darwin. So what happened?
They turned their backs on God and truth, and made science their god.
 
"*On March 12, 2008, the John Templeton Foundation made the announcement of the winner of its annual Templeton Prize, which honors achievements engaging the great questions of life and the universe. The $1.6 million prize for 2008 went to Michal Heller, a Polish cosmologist and professor in the faculty of philosophy at the Pontifical Academy of Theology in Cracow, Poland. What makes Heller additionally remarkable is that he is a Catholic priest.

The 72-year-old plans to spend the prize money to establish a research institute-named in honor of Nicholas Copernicus-that will seek to reconcile science and theology. Fr. Heller said*:"

Why would there need to be a reconciliation if there hasn’t been a perceived conflict fostered by Christians and atheists?
 
"*On March 12, 2008, the John Templeton Foundation made the announcement of the winner of its annual Templeton Prize, which honors achievements engaging the great questions of life and the universe. The $1.6 million prize for 2008 went to Michal Heller, a Polish cosmologist and professor in the faculty of philosophy at the Pontifical Academy of Theology in Cracow, Poland. What makes Heller additionally remarkable is that he is a Catholic priest.

The 72-year-old plans to spend the prize money to establish a research institute-named in honor of Nicholas Copernicus-that will seek to reconcile science and theology. Fr. Heller said*:"

Why would there need to be a reconciliation if there hasn’t been a perceived conflict fostered by Christians and atheists?
 
IWantGod;14895167 said:
"*On March 12, 2008, the John Templeton Foundation made the announcement of the winner of its annual Templeton Prize, which honors achievements engaging the great questions of life and the universe. The $1.6 million prize for 2008 went to Michal Heller, a Polish cosmologist and professor in the faculty of philosophy at the Pontifical Academy of Theology in Cracow, Poland. What makes Heller additionally remarkable is that he is a Catholic priest.

The 72-year-old plans to spend the prize money to establish a research institute-named in honor of Nicholas Copernicus-that will seek to reconcile science and theology. Fr. Heller said*
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Why would there need to be a reconciliation if there hasn’t been a perceived conflict fostered by Christians and atheists?

Okay, what is the correct interpretation?
 
Do you think it has something to do with the Catholic Church being highly invested in Aristotelian philosophy and Thomism that it could not accommodate the mechanicist science of Newtonian mechanics and later Darwinian evolution. Such scientific theories seem to dispense of classical notions of substance and teleology.
 
The conflict is not between science and religion.
The conflict is between atheists and religious believers. The atheists have learned to drape themselves in “science” and claim that religion is anti-science
 
There is no conflict, but figures like Richard Dawkins attempt to further that illusion. It’s the usual ploy of a naturalist.
 
What caused the conflict between science and religion?

If you look at the history of science many scientists were religious people, even Darwin. So what happened?
People thought that the advance of science meant that religion was in retreat. The two are not connected.

There are a few on this forum that quote quasi religious comments from scientists ad nauseum as if any one person’s personal views made any difference to that fact.

Maybe some people think that religion is indeed on the back foot and needs a bogey man. Who can say…
 
There is a conflict between dumb science and dumb religion and the truth.
No conflict exists between religion and science in search of the truth.
 
What caused the conflict between science and religion?

If you look at the history of science many scientists were religious people, even Darwin. So what happened?
It probably started when some science guys started saying that you can’t look for truth elsewhere other than science itself.

Then they started ridiculing people who seek truth in other places other science. That started the rift. Like in most things, people just don’t like it when ignorant people start calling other people stupid, insane, village idiots etc

Then they started modifying school curriculum to reflect what THEY want to teach your kids. Actually it is ok if they don’t want to attend religious knowledge classes, they shouldn’t deny for those who wanted them. They shouldn’t force your kids to study stuff that is clearly not truly scientific, like evolution either. It’s only a theory which is unable to prove itself valid after a 100 years of grace time given to it to substantiate it. Even with fraudulent materials thrown in to boost his explanatory power to boot. It could be one of among a few theories to be taught though. So that its shortfalls could be clearly shown.

Excuse my rant. I feel better now.
 
In human nature. Humans do not like it when their world view is challenged. When someone fell frm a tree, it was gods will (lowercase - pre christian times) then someone came along and said, no, its gravity! That upset the religious types and earned science a bad reputation.

We are still a long way from science and religion being comlementary, but we are getting there. I believe God set the rules of science up so we could understand them, and work with them. To me, science and religion can coexist nicely!
 
I’m not seeing a conflict between science and religion.

I do see a conflict between religion and some (not all) scientists who put human logical thought above all other things, including faith in God.

Plenty of us who work or have worked in the sciences do not have any problem simultaneously believing in God or following a religion. My husband has an engineering degree and recently got asked by some Baptist distant relative at a family gathering, “You seem to be really interested in science. Have you ever had any conflict between science and your religious faith?” My husband, who is even less inclined to this sort of deep thought than I am, said “No”, which the distant relative apparently found baffling.
 
What caused the conflict between science and religion?

If you look at the history of science many scientists were religious people, even Darwin. So what happened?
The conflicts you generally see are from the positions of a person are group being inconsistent with or contradicted by other theories built from investigating the world. These conflicting positions are not only from religious beliefs though. And “religions” is a rather large group/wide brush.
 
The conflict is not between science and religion.
The conflict is between atheists and religious believers. The atheists have learned to drape themselves in “science” and claim that religion is anti-science
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Brilliant idea. Outstanding. Except there aren’t any others. Someone should have told you.
Someone should have told you admitting ignorance can be a viable option. We don’t know the answer. I have ticked “None of the above” in my exams countless times and scored. That has never stopped science in its tracks before. Just plain simple truth if that is the goal in our search for knowledge. Forming correct conclusions. Since the data doesn’t fits, therefore this theory or that theory doesn’t hold. People can accept truth. People can accept we don’t have all the scientific answers… Faking answers and BS are the worst kind of answers along with politically correct answers. My former boss once told me, if you don’t know the answer, tell me it is so, don’t guess, So that we can form appropriate strategy to deal with uncertainty and not with false certainty. I think it is good advice and good ethics. Is the scientific ego so huge that it couldn’t handle “we don’t know”? Is the scientific moral so poor that it couldn’t say out loud confidently “we don’t know the answer” as a truth statement?
 
Someone should have told you admitting ignorance can be a viable option. We don’t know the answer. I have ticked “None of the above” in my exams countless times and scored. That has never stopped science in its tracks before. Just plain simple truth if that is the goal in our search for knowledge. Forming correct conclusions. Since the data doesn’t fits, therefore this theory or that theory doesn’t hold. People can accept truth. People can accept we don’t have all the scientific answers… Faking answers and BS are the worst kind of answers along with politically correct answers. My former boss once told me, if you don’t know the answer, tell me it is so, don’t guess, So that we can form appropriate strategy to deal with uncertainty and not with false certainty. I think it is good advice and good ethics. Is the scientific ego so huge that it couldn’t handle “we don’t know”? Is the scientific moral so poor that it couldn’t say out loud confidently “we don’t know the answer” as a truth statement?
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I agree, and the theory of evolution is a classic example IMO, there are many holes in it (there is also some truth to it too, such as micro evolution, which is more like inbuilt adaption, but macro evolution is full of holes).

It’s held onto very tightly because it’s the only naturalistic explanation available to them.

God Bless

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
The conflicts you generally see are from the positions of a person are group being inconsistent with or contradicted by other theories built from investigating the world. These conflicting positions are not only from religious beliefs though. And “religions” is a rather large group/wide brush.
Conflicts are universal. Catholics like atheists, like Hindus and Buddhists, and Muslims and Jews tend to argue as much with each other when they are not coming together to argue with someone else. We all want to express our point of view This is especially true when someone on the internet is wrong. All that said, there can be some pretty awesome meetings of minds.
 
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