What Do Catholics Believe about Justification?

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I am curious as to what Roman Catholics believe about Justification by faith and how they understand this to work?

My understanding is that we are justified (declared not guilty) by a faith is Jesus Christ by believing on Christ for salvation, accept that we are sinners and confess as such, accept Christ forgiveness, and living a holy; repentant life. I also believe and have been taught that we are justified to do acts of service, because we all know that faith without works is dead.

I don’t mean any of this to be offensive, but I am trying to discern conversion to Catholicism or not.
 
What do Catholic believe about justification? In a nutshell, it includes the remission of sins, sanctification, and the renewal of the inner man. It is ordinarily obtained through faith and Baptism. It can be lost through mortal sin. It ordinarily can be restored through repentance and Confession. If you don’t have it when you die, you go to hell.
 
I’m no expert on this so what I say is mainly my understanding…Others may be able to provide more “expert” explanations.

The Catholic view of Justification is that it is not a “one time thing” but rather an ongoing development…Justification and Sanctification are intertwined. We are justified at baptism but for that initial justification to hold we must commit ourselves to living for Christ, to growing in holiness - in short to become Sanctified.

It’s like when a person is admitted to a college degree program. The are initially accepted, but their continued acceptance depends on how effectively they choose to take advantage of the opportunities offered by the university. Does that make sense??

Peace
James
 
To add a bit.

The differences in Protestant and Catholic tend to be over definition of terms. Both view our status at end end life to be important; ie must be in right relationship with God to be accepted into heaven. Protestants generally believe this happens on acceptance of Christ as your Lord, and that we are then “covered” by Christ’s righteousness so that when God looks at us He only sees Christ. Our Justification and Sanctification happen all at once, sometimes referred to as “once saved always saved” or “Justification by faith (alone)”. As you referred to, our salvation is witnessed to by our works in the world, but as a witness only, not part of the process.

Catholics believe our Justification happens at Baptism and our Sanctification is a process by which we are transformed. We experience an internal transformation generally through practicing the sacraments (Eucharist, Confession) and prayer (Mass, Liturgy of the Hours, Adoration), so that as we progress through life, our transformation continues until death. This is why “last rites” (anointing and reconciliation) are so important for Catholics, so that our sins are forgiven at time of transition from this life to the next, so that we can be accepted into heaven.

Many Protestants are taught that these actions which act not only as a witness, but part of the salvation process, is considered “works” which goes against what God designed for us. (I’m not saying they are, just that this is what many Protestants are taught).

Good luck in your search. Are you in an RCIA class? They are helpful to learn and discern.
 
I am curious as to what Roman Catholics believe about Justification by faith and how they understand this to work?

My understanding is that we are justified (declared not guilty) by a faith is Jesus Christ by believing on Christ for salvation, accept that we are sinners and confess as such, accept Christ forgiveness, and living a holy; repentant life. I also believe and have been taught that we are justified to do acts of service, because we all know that faith without works is dead.

I don’t mean any of this to be offensive, but I am trying to discern conversion to Catholicism or not.
If you believe that living a holy, repentant life is a basis for justification (i.e., final justification–acceptance by God at the judgment) then you are essentially on the Catholic side on this one.

The traditional Protestant (Lutheran/Reformed/Baptist) view is that living a holy life is a consequence of justification but in no sense a basis for it.

The Catholic view as I understand it is that the Holy Spirit pours grace into our hearts, which is received by faith, and that this grace causes us to love God and neighbor and do good works. The more we cooperate with grace, the more grace we receive, until eventually we are entirely sanctified and united with God forever.

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The Catholic view as I understand it is that the Holy Spirit pours grace into our hearts, which is received by faith, and that this grace causes us to love God and neighbor and do good works. The more we cooperate with grace, the more grace we receive, until eventually we are entirely sanctified and united with God forever.
There is only one way for fallen man to be justified: it is through a one body, one-flesh (matrimonial, if you will) relationship with Truth incarnate–Jesus Christ (cf. Gal. 2:20), the resurrected Temple in Ezekiel’s dream wherein dwells the entire Godhead. In Baptism this union is accomplished. In the Eucharist, our tabernacles (bodies) are increasingly healed and our hearts increasingly purified–thus increasingly accomplishing the redemption of the body described by Paul.

As for works: our Triune God (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) IS Love. St. Hildegard tells us that if any Person of the Trinity were missing, then God would not be God. Ergo, God would not be Love. The Holy Spirit is the fire of God’s heart for eternal and fruitful (ALL expression in the Spirit is creative, multiplicative) expression of infinite Goodness, and the union with the fruit of that expression. To say that one should express love is to be redundant. Fruitfull expression is a NECESSARY component of Love, and VITAL for us to be in the image and likeness of God. If you do not express fruitfully Truth and Light–you are in his image, but not in his likeness. The word love is used over 800 times in Scripture. Do you know how many times the word “express” is used in conjunction with it? The answer is zero–because love does not exist absent fruitful expression.

This is why faith without works is dead. Faith is only possible with the indwelling of the Spirit. If the Spirit is present, then He is prompting fruitful expression. If those promptings are not followed, then Life is not in this person, and this person is not in the likeness of God.
 
Paul teaches that justification is inextricably grounded in the death and resurrection of the Son of God, in and throughout this process, he bears our sins and dies for them in His death, and by raising from the dead, he ascends with the victory of the forgiveness of sin for all those who are baptized.

However, with the forgiveness of sin, there is the renewal of the person which God works through faith, not a one time act, but the walk of life; the just shall live by faith.

Faith, when perservering to the end, is the victory and the means of salvation and the means by which we work love and obedience to the world.
 
Paul teaches that justification is inextricably grounded in the death and resurrection of the Son of God, in and throughout this process, he bears our sins and dies for them in His death, and by raising from the dead, he ascends with the victory of the forgiveness of sin for all those who are baptized.

However, with the forgiveness of sin, there is the renewal of the person which God works through faith, not a one time act, but the walk of life; the just shall live by faith.

Faith, when persevering to the end, is the victory and the means of salvation and the means by which we work love and obedience to the world.
Erick,
Nice Post.
Curious…Are you presenting what, “Catholics believe about justification” or is it what you and your protestant denomination believe about justification

I don’t ask in a negative way I like what you wrote - I am just curious and seek clarification for the sake of the thread title.

Peace
James
 
Paul teaches that justification is inextricably grounded in the death and resurrection of the Son of God, in and throughout this process, he bears our sins and dies for them in His death, and by raising from the dead, he ascends with the victory of the forgiveness of sin for all those who are baptized.

However, with the forgiveness of sin, there is the renewal of the person which God works through faith, not a one time act, but the walk of life; the just shall live by faith.

Faith, when perservering to the end, is the victory and the means of salvation and the means by which we work love and obedience to the world.
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I am curious as to what Roman Catholics believe about Justification by faith and how they understand this to work?

My understanding is that we are justified (declared not guilty) by a faith is Jesus Christ by believing on Christ for salvation, accept that we are sinners and confess as such, accept Christ forgiveness, and living a holy; repentant life. I also believe and have been taught that we are justified to do acts of service, because we all know that faith without works is dead.

I don’t mean any of this to be offensive, but I am trying to discern conversion to Catholicism or not.
Look for the Journal on Salvation and Justification…this was written by protestant converts and explain the differences and nuances very well…especially the one written by Dr. Marshner…chnetwork.org/resources/coming-home-journals/

The other journals too…one the first one piques your interest. 👍
 
I am really not participating in any protestant Church right now. I occasionally visit one with very close friends. But for the most part, I have been visiting different parishes in the area here. I am praying the Lord leads me to the truth. But I have not been confirmed as to what that is yet. For the record, I was raised Roman Catholic and became protestant at 18, and now I am 25 years old. I was stating what I believe, but I am not entirely sure this puts me in conformity to the Catholic position.

In my understanding, when Paul speaks of “justification” or to be “justified” in Romans, Galatians, 1 Corinthians, he has in mind the idea of forensic acquittal. But I have some more explaining.

For instance, St. Paul says:
“But it is a small thing that I should be examined by you, or by any human court; in fact, I do not even examine myself. I am conscious of nothing against myself, yet I am not by this justified; but the one who examines me is the Lord”. (1 Cor 4:1-4)

Do you see the word for*** “justified”*** in this verse cannot mean to internally make someone righteous, but rather to declare if he/she is right or wrong AFTER an examination or judgement. In other words there is no opportunity for one to act in judgement because it is examining the past of one’s behavior. It is very clear to me, especially as I am trying my hardest to take in the RC teaching on salvation, that the word "justified" here refers to the forensic declaration that one is free from guilt, there is no cause for condemnation, he/she is in conformity to whatever standard of righteousness is being used in the examination of the person. It is not an internal ongoing process from the inside of the person to cause them to behave in a righteous way.

Similarly,

“Who will bring a*** charge against ***God’s elect? God is the one who justifies; who is the one who condemns? Christ Jesus is He who died, yes, rather who was raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us. What shall separate us from the love of Christ?” (Rom 8:34)

First, notice how the word “***against” ***is also used in the previous verse of 1 Cor 4:1-4 speaking of the examination of Paul from a human court (Corinth). To bring a charge against God’s elect to to accuse them of wrongdoing, yes? Therefore for God to justify, in this verse, is to remove any possibility for there to be a charge against them. It means they are right with God, and carry no guilt of wrongdoing. And then he goes on to speak of the intercession of Christ Jesus for us on the basis of His death and resurrection, both of which cause our justification (Rom 4:25).

Moreover,

“Much more than, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him” (Romans 5:9). It is the blood of Christ which justifies us! What does “blood” signify? Our death and resurrection in baptism? No, it is referring to his vicarious sacrifice which bears our sin as is shown from a couple verses prior stating that Christ died for the ungodly. His death, when received and benefited through faith and in baptism, puts us in a new status before God.

In each of these cases, it is clear to me that to be "justified" by God is to be cleared of faults and sins. This is why St. Paul can argue the David speaks of the blessedness of justification in Psalm 32 which speaks of the blessing of the forgiveness of sin. To be justified is to be forgiven of our sins.

Now, it is through water baptism, repentance, and faith that we receive the benefits of Christ’s death. Therefore while justification is the forgiveness of sin and the new status of being right with God, the blessing of justification only happens at the same time that we are regenerated and renewed by the Holy Spirit. There is no salvation consisting of an external declaration of a person without the recreation of the whole person. Therefore, divine acquital and forgiveness are what we receive by justification, but in the same act of baptism, which also is the means of justification, we are remade and recreated to be new men and women in Christ Jesus, zealous for good works. This grace of justification is a “state” of forgiveness and blamelessness that remains so throughout our Christian life on the condition we persevere and work out our salvation all the way to the end. In other words, God’s elect remain forgiven of their sin with respect to eternal retribution. However, if one does not continue to believe (Col 1:15) and perservere in holiness, then this grace is not going to bring one to heaven.

In Abraham’s offering of Isaac and with Rahab’s accepting of the spies of Israel, this is indeed speaking of “justification” and one that concerns “salvation” (james 2:15). A faith which is dead can save no man. Only a faith which lives through obedience and works can save a man. Justification also comes as a result of one doing what their faith tells them to do. But I would not say that Abraham was “saved” only at this offering of Isaac, I would say that this was the process of salvation.

In the final judgement, Christ will judge us on the basis of our love and good deeds, which is just faith living inside of us. If we fail to have been obedient, we will suffer hell and damnation. Those who overcome are not just those who were forgiven of their sin but also those whose deeds are done in the Lamb prove one’s worth for the kingdom of God.
 
Wow! I really wasn’t trying to start a debate.

If I am understanding this correctly then RC teaches that one is justified (declared not guilty before God) at their baptism. It is by the sacrament of the Eucharist and Reconciliation that you remain in this state of grace and you continually grow in grace and become more like Christ through these.

Would this be a good read on what everyone is saying?

Personally I always have struggled with being told that baptism is an external sign of an inward work, but in the Gospels Jesus always said those “Who Believe and are baptized shall be saved.” Which always has had me believe that baptism was a lot more than most would let on in some protestant churches.
 
Wow! I really wasn’t trying to start a debate.

If I am understanding this correctly then RC teaches that one is justified (declared not guilty before God) at their baptism. It is by the sacrament of the Eucharist and Reconciliation that you remain in this state of grace and you continually grow in grace and become more like Christ through these.

Would this be a good read on what everyone is saying?

Personally I always have struggled with being told that baptism is an external sign of an inward work, but in the Gospels Jesus always said those “Who Believe and are baptized shall be saved.” Which always has had me believe that baptism was a lot more than most would let on in some protestant churches.
Sean, it sounds to me like you have a pretty good handle on it. I would add that Baptism make us, literally, one body with Christ. Sense-ably it seems symbolic, but meta-sense-ably IT IS LITERAL. Just as in the Sacrament of marriage the two become one flesh. This, too, seems to be symbolic. But in the meta-sense-able state, it IS LITERAL. We do not become one body in the sense that the UN is a body of diplomats. When the adulteress was brought before Jesus and he shamed her accusers into leaving, he told her that because there was no one to accuse her, he would not accuse her. No accusers–no condemnation. When we become one literal body with Christ, he takes away all of our accusers. Could Jesus condemn his own body. Not a chance. That is how we are justified in Baptism.
 
Sean, it sounds to me like you have a pretty good handle on it. I would add that Baptism make us, literally, one body with Christ. Sense-ably it seems symbolic, but meta-sense-ably IT IS LITERAL. Just as in the Sacrament of marriage the two become one flesh. This, too, seems to be symbolic. But in the meta-sense-able state, it IS LITERAL. We do not become one body in the sense that the UN is a body of diplomats. When the adulteress was brought before Jesus and he shamed her accusers into leaving, he told her that because there was no one to accuse her, he would not accuse her. No accusers–no condemnation. When we become one literal body with Christ, he takes away all of our accusers. Could Jesus condemn his own body. Not a chance. That is how we are justified in Baptism.
Good to hear. In the Wesleyan tradition we certainly would have room to agree with one another on this theologically. Actually the Nazarene church has a baptism ritual in our manual for infants, but it is rarely used though John Wesley himself firmly believed in it. Many have opted for the outward sign of an inward work and went very Anabaptist in their belief in terms that only adults or those who are able to attest to a work of grace in their lives then they can be baptized.

The growth in grace we would attribute as something instant and continuous known as initial sanctification and continuous sanctification. Wesley believed that there came a point in a Christians life that they would get tired of doing that which they didn’t want too (sin) much like Paul describes in Romans 7 and thus Entire Sanctification is the answer where we surrender our all to God and allow the Holy Spirit to fill us with His love and to grow in our total love for God and neighbor (see Pentecost narrative) and would certainly affected Christian witness and how often one would sin. Wesley also believed that there was a very real presence in the Eucharist and believed in Reconciliation. The issue of transubstantiation he wasn’t really sure on, but either way the point is that Christ is the one we worship and strive to be like and that in the Lord’s Supper He becomes part of us in that moment. So as you can see just based on this one issue it carries significance into all of the Christian life. Certainly you can see where I would definitely be able to come into Roman Catholicism just based on this.

On one note Wesley was an Anglican his whole life so would have shared many things in common with the Roman Church. Sadly most Nazarene’s, like unlike myself, do not realize how much we have in common just simply because of the lack of education. I would certainly like to see those in a Wesleyan tradition come to full communion with the RC Church eventually.

Clear as mud right? lol Let me know if something isn’t clear friends.
 
Wow! I really wasn’t trying to start a debate.

If I am understanding this correctly then RC teaches that one is justified (declared not guilty before God) at their baptism. It is by the sacrament of the Eucharist and Reconciliation that you remain in this state of grace and you continually grow in grace and become more like Christ through these.

Would this be a good read on what everyone is saying?

Personally I always have struggled with being told that baptism is an external sign of an inward work, but in the Gospels Jesus always said those "Who Believe and are baptized shall be saved." Which always has had me believe that baptism was a lot more than most would let on in some protestant churches.
Just a quick comment on the bolded section…

When I was looking into the Greek term for Baptism, I ran across this in Strong’s and really liked the imagery it presents…
Baptizo -

  1. *]to dip repeatedly, to immerse, to submerge (of vessels sunk)
    *]to cleanse by dipping or submerging, to wash, to make clean with water, to wash one’s self, bathe
    *]to overwhelm
    (underlining mine)

    Not to be confused with 911, bapto. The clearest example that shows the meaning of baptizo is a text from the Greek poet and physician Nicander, who lived about 200 B.C. It is a recipe for making pickles and is helpful because it uses both words. Nicander says that in order to make a pickle, the vegetable should first be ‘dipped’ (bapto) into boiling water and then ‘baptised’ (baptizo) in the vinegar solution. Both verbs concern the immersing of vegetables in a solution. But the first is temporary. The second, the act of baptising the vegetable, produces a permanent change. When used in the New Testament, this word more often refers to our union and identification with Christ than to our water baptism. e.g. Mark 16:16. ‘He that believes and is baptised shall be saved’. Christ is saying that mere intellectual assent is not enough. There must be a union with him, a real change, like the vegetable to the pickle! Bible Study Magazine, James Montgomery Boice, May 1989.

    The great thing that I love about this is the idea of immersion…Not dipping or washing, but an immersion - like in a pickling brine - so that one is changed…

    This is the term that Jesus uses in the quote highlighted…Immersed…Believe and be baptized = commit and be immersed in the life of Christ becoming joined to Him…

    I think that this ties in somewhat with the idea of “imputed” vs “infused” righteousness or justification… The idea of immersion in Christ, so that His very being becomes infused into us is, to me, a powerful image.

    Peace
    James
 
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The above link is to Robert Sungenis’ book ’ How to get to Heaven: The Bibles teaching on Salvation Made Easy to Understand’. This is Mr. Sungenis condensed version of the best-selling ‘Not By Faith Alone: The Biblical Evidence for the Catholic Doctrine of Justification’.

I recommend it 🙂
 
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