What do you think about Hillary Clinton? or Bill Clinton?

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What do you think about Hillery Clinton? Or Bill Clinton?
Do you agree with their world view and morals? Or
Their political progressive agenda?
 
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I try not to think about them because in my opinion Bill was the living embodiment of this song and an embarrassment to the Democratic party. He even got his law license suspended (some sources say disbarred, but I’m not sure; suspended has been confirmed by Snopes, and he resigned from the Supreme Court bar before they made the final decision on whether to disbar him). That’s just pathetic.


I always felt kinda sorry for Hillary, but her ambition and her personality has always struck me as a bit over the top for me. I was very sorry Ann Richards died. I liked her style much, much more.

I do pray for the Clintons though. As well as for the Obamas, the Trumps, the Kennedys, and I’ll probably be throwing in the Bidens, Bushes and Sanderses when I have a chance.
 
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First thing, Mrs Clinton is Hillary.

I have not met either of them personally, however, I do have friends who have worked with each of them. What I have heard is that she was always the “power behind the throne” and is not the most friendly person in the world. That he is a brilliant man with a freakishly amazing memory, charming and quite a flirt.

Not knowing every one of their opinions on every world view or moral issue, I can only speak to what I have read or witnessed from their deeds. I agree with some things and disagree with others.

They are two flawed human beings who have done both good and bad things, just like the woman I see in the mirror each day.
 
@usinner, Welcome to Catholic Answers Forums.

Tell us what you think about the Clintons.
 
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This gem from Animaniacs
 
What I think: I think that Bill came from a broken home and raised by grandparents who have a tendency to be permissive and indulgent with grandchildren, esp. when from broken homes. I think Bill was a reasonably decent person in his early adult life. I also think he loved Hillery and still does but the warmth was not returned thus he made some serious mistakes. Hillary came from a stable, middle-class family. Not a whole lot is really that well known about her family or her early years. We ‘sort of’ know she became somewhat cold and calculating and maybe manipulating. She had one child but I didn’t view her as a real family oriented person, but it is hard to tell what
t made or how she felt other than then she said herself that she was not ‘a stay at home mom.’ It seems like she was the one with the high inspiration/ambition of some type of political notoriety and was the power behind Bill. I don’t think Bill was much other than a middle of the road happy kind of guy with good intentions that went astray. I think she is more of a
mystery than Bill. However, over and over again she showed that she was not qualified to lead a great nation. Few of us are, but chasing after power and glory will not serve well in the long run. I am sort of a back seat driver just making personal observations and personal conclusions. The one thing I will say about Hillery is she has an awful sense of style and just does not know how to dress. But I don’t either…so there’s that!!
 
I think it would have been a disaster for the world, in particular the United States, if she became president not to mention for Catholics as well because she would have continued in an even stronger way anti Catholicism. Her actions after she lost just confirmed.
 
What do I think about the Clintons, as little as possible. Please Bill and Hill, just go away, and take the kid with you.
 
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. He even got his law license suspended (some sources say disbarred, but I’m not sure; suspended has been confirmed by Snopes, and he resigned from the Supreme Court bar before they made the final decision on whether to disbar him).
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It was a technically a suspension, but in a manner that was disbarment in all but name.

He agreed to be suspended for at least five years, and in a manner that would require that he apply not for readmission, but reinstatement. In the normal meaning of the word that is “disbarred”, but apparently not technically in Arkansas.

He agreed to this as part of a criminal plea which was entered into the morning of his successor’s inauguration (hiding it deep in the news cycle).

In most states, the sequence in which his wife represented an S&L, signed an affidavit that she did “no significant work” so that her firm could get the contract to sue that S&L, and then turning around and suing her client, would have been a slam-dunk disbarment when it came out that “no significant work” was billed at over $30,000 . . . but that firm also pretty much ran the state. In other states, it likely would have led to an interim suspension pending the hearing.

hawk, esq.
 
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It was a technically a suspension, but in a manner that was disbarment in all but name.
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I heard “disbarred” from numerous knowledgeable legal sources and was a bit surprised to see some web sources calling it “suspension”.

Also heard from folks “in the know” that he resigned from the S Ct bar because they were on the verge of disbarring him.
 
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Nixon resigned from the California bar the same way . . . but they rejected the resignation and formally disbarred him.

As a lawyer, I really can’t find a difference between permanent suspension with the ability to reapply (bar exam and all) once the court gives permission, at least five years before request, and disbarment.

hawk
 
Not a fan of Hillary.

My feelings about Bill are … complicated. Having voted for him the first time (my first presidential election), I came to find a lot about him abhorrent. But I still have a somewhat nostalgic view about him and the excitement/optimism I felt in '92.
 
My feelings on the man and his performance are just about at opposite extremes.

The man was a pot-smoking draft-dodger who saw public office as a way to get girls, by force if need be.

Once he adapted to the reality of an opposition congress, he actually worked well with them. In an apparent position of near-irrelevance, with a house speaker would all but be a prime minster, he adapted. Two years later, he basically ran on their platform: when asked for his accomplishments that deserved re-election, most of what he said came from the Contract With America.

My ideal presidential candidate would actually be, roughly, a Bill Clinton but with moral fiber and convictions, adamantly pro-life (and not just for abortion, understanding basic economics (which unfortunately seems to be a disqualified for public office in that party), and an absolute commitment to “original intent” judicial appointments.

(I don’t expect this in my lifetime . .)

hawk
 
Hawk, he wasn’t a wonderful guy. He was a kind of a ‘me’ person and I would guess he was raised that way. In a sense he was a ‘happy wanderer’ but in his early adulthood-high school and early college, he discovered he could get by with a lot of questionable antics and bad behavior. I think he went whichever the wind was blowing. He is given great credit for balancing the budget but he did it on the backs of the aging and poor. He and congress raided S. S. and now The aged are having a difficult time and S. S. has been mislabeled as entitlements. He, Congress and the Senate pulled all kinds of tricks. He had good mentors.
 
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What do you think about Hillery Clinton? Or Bill Clinton?
Do you agree with their world view and morals? Or
Their political progressive agenda?
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I don’t understand why we would discuss it? they are both history - out of the race, probably for good.

Would it not be more productive to talk about non-negotiables for Catholics and how we can be better citizens in the world?
 
What do you think about Hillary Clinton? or Bill Clinton?

I don’t know either of them .

But I know that more voted for Bill Clinton than for George H. W. Bush in 1992 .

And I know that more voted for Bill Clinton than for Bob Dole in 1996 .

Plus I know that more voted for Hillary Clinton than for Donald Trump in 2016 . :confused::confused::confused:

Yes , that last one is a bit confusing . I always thought that in a democracy the one who gets the most votes wins . Very odd .
 
This is the place for Casual Discussion, is it not? So if I wish to wish to discuss the Rise and Fall of Western Civilization that is OK-right? But…not recent political history cause that is bad and unrelatable? Do we take any lessons from history?
 
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