What does John 9:31 mean?

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John 9:31 “Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.”

Can someone tell me what this means? When does God 'not hear sinners’? Unless I’ve just walked out of a confessional, does this mean God won’t hear my prayers?! Can someone explain this verse in context? Thank you!
 
Not sure, but God tells His people the same thing in Is. 58. Essentially, He tells them that as long as they are disobedient they should not expect their prayers to be heard. Makes you want to walk the line, doesn’t it?
 
After rereading Is. 58, I don’t think we have to worry as long as we sincerely try to obey God’s commandments. The people to whom is was addressed had apparently lost all semblance of charity but were obeying the letter of the law. Specifically, they were publicly fasting, wearing sackcloth, and walking around with long faces to demonstrate their piety while, at the same time, ignoring the plight of the widows, orphans and other needy among them. In other words, they had turned their backs on God’s commandments and were obeying the rules laid down by their leaders. As long as we try, God forgives us and hears our prayers.

Is. 58 is my favorite part of the old testament. It gives us a blueprint for daily living, the punishment for disobedience, and the promise of reward for following God. Try reading this to get a little perspective. The entire chapter is only two pages, so it’s a short read. However, it is absolutely loaded with food for thought and, being a prophetic book, capsules the law as laid down by Jesus in the new testament.

Another thing that has been helpful to me when studying the bible is to remember the two great commandments and read everything in that context. It helps a lot of things fall into place and saves a lot of worry over what could otherwise be troubling passages.
 
First, read it in the context it was written. That should clarify a LOT.

In my NKJV Reference Bible, I have a reference to Zecharaiah 7:13 which says:
Therefore it happened, that just as He proclaimed and they would not hear, so they called out and I would not listen,” says the LORD of hosts.

Which refers to Proverbs 1:24-28:
24 Because I have called and you refused,
I have stretched out my hand and no one regarded,
25 Because you disdained all my counsel,
And would have none of my rebuke,
26 I also will laugh at your calamity;
I will mock when your terror comes,
27 When your terror comes like a storm,
And your destruction comes like a whirlwind,
When distress and anguish come upon you.
28 “ Then they will call on me, but I will not answer;
They will seek me diligently, but they will not find me.

Which has several references:
v. 24 refers to Jeremiah 7:13
v. 25 refers to Luke 7:30
v. 26 refers to Psalm 2:4
v. 27 conceptually refers to Proverbs 10:24,25
v. 28 refers to Isaiah 1:15

We could go on and on.

Unpacking scripture is a LOT of work but it sure is instructive.
 
Elzee, my understanding of John 9:31has to be understood in the context of the whole chapter about the man born blind. Basically what Jesus is teaching us that if we ask something from the Father the is in accordance to the Father’s Will, not ours, then it will be given us - “Thy Will be done…”. But Jesus recognizes that Sinners are not living in accordance with the Will of the Father but their own will, which is why they will not receive what they are asking.

A quick offshoot of this is Paul’s saying that in Christ all thing are allowed. Paul is saying this because if we truely in Christ then all that we do or ask for, will always be in accordance with the Will of the Father.
 
Isaiah chapters 64 and 65 are also helpful in understanding the verse from John. If we persist in sin God will leave us to our own devices and will not recognize any good deeds that we do or any prayer requests that we may have. We must repent and seek God’s mercy and forgiveness. Our prayers of repentance God will, indeed, hear and in turn grant us His infinite mercy. We must be in friendship with the Lord in order to walk with the Lord.
 
***Hi, Elzee!

I want to share another passage of Scripture that can shed some light on why God does not listen to sinners:

You ask and do not receive, because you ask wrongly, to spend it on your passions. (St. James 4:3)***

When we live in sin we do not seek to please God–and we can’t please God (Roman 8:5-8)… so God turns a deaf ear to our empty promises and pleas.

God Bless!

Angel
 
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Elzee:
John 9:31 “Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.”

Can someone tell me what this means? When does God 'not hear sinners’? Unless I’ve just walked out of a confessional, does this mean God won’t hear my prayers?! Can someone explain this verse in context? Thank you!
I think that it means something like this:

Hypothetical. There are two people about to get laid-off by their down-sizing corporation. One is a porn-peeking masturbator, praying for job relief; the other is a nagger, whose nagging is gradually destroying and killing the nagger’s wife, and he, too, prays for job relief.

The masturbator is sick of the kind of person he is. He prays not only for job relief, but also for the inspiration and help to rise above his sinful habits, and to be a morally pure asset to his family and community.

The nagger remains a nasty nagger, and loves being that way, while he prays for job relief.

God will pay more attention to the one praying for overall improvement, than He will to the nasty soul praying for just job relief.

God wants us to be strong and perfect Christians and soldiers of Jesus Christ.

He doesn’t want us to be disgusting half-baked potatoes.
 
***Hi, BibleReader!

In your hypothetical, do any of the two sinners repent, confess their sins, and actually work towards redeeming themselves by fighting against the stimuli that causes them to sin? Do they simply contend that they are sinner and drop it at God’s door… “Here, you take care of that… I done my part, now you do the rest?”

True, God is willing to forgive us, no matter how many times we go to Him… but we have to be willing to change, we have to obey him, we have to fight that which causes us to sin. (Isaiah 1:18-20; Matthew 5:29-30; 1 John 1:9; John 5:14; 8:10-11; Romans 6:19-23)

Now the work of the flesh are plain: immorality, impurity licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, anger, selfishness, dissension, party spirit, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and the like. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. (Galasians 5:19-21)***

True, God will listen to a repentant sinner… but He does not play favorite between sinners (Luke 13:1-5).

God Bless!

Angel
 
God will only hear the prayers of the penitent because none of us alive today are without sin. We are all sinners, but the question is do we repent in the hope of eternal life and struggle to live faithful lives in accord with the fullness of truth taught to us by The Body Of Christ, the Church.

God Bless
 
jcrichton said:
Hi, BibleReader!

In your hypothetical, do any of the two sinners repent, confess their sins, and actually work towards redeeming themselves by fighting against the stimuli that causes them to sin? Do they simply contend that they are sinner and drop it at God’s door… "Here, you take care of that… I done my part, now you do the rest?"


***True, God is willing to forgive us, no matter how many times we go to Him… but we have to be willing to change, we have to obey him, we have to fight that which causes us to sin. (Isaiah 1:18-20; Matthew 5:29-30; 1 John 1:9; John 5:14; 8:10-11; Romans 6:19-23) ***

Now the work of the flesh are plain: immorality, impurity licentiousness, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, anger, selfishness, dissension, party spirit, envy, drunkenness, carousing, and the like. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. (Galasians 5:19-21)

True, God will listen to a repentant sinner… but He does not play favorite between sinners (Luke 13:1-5).

God Bless!

Angel

In my hypothetical, the nagger stays persistently, stubbornly and dedicatedly married to his big sin. The porn-peeker/masturbator goes to war with his sin, with God’s help.
 
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Elzee:
John 9:31 “Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.”

Can someone tell me what this means? When does God 'not hear sinners’? Unless I’ve just walked out of a confessional, does this mean God won’t hear my prayers?! Can someone explain this verse in context? Thank you!

Since Judaism was a religion in which there were sin-offerings of various kinds, it folows that Jews could not have been unaware that they were liable to sin.​

If the verse were to be understood strictly, to mean sinning at all, this would make a complete nonsense of the sacrificial system of Judaism - for anyone who sinned, would be wholly incapable of benefiting from that system, because God “does not hear sinners”: not even sinners who offer sacrifices a precisely in order to make expiation for their sins.

As this strict interpretation makes nonsense of the text, it must be incorrect.

So, a less strict intepretation is indicated:

Either:
  1. Unrepentant sinners are meant
or
  1. the sort of folk mentioned in Isaiah 58 (& 1) who are criticised for offering sacrifice and prayer while living unrighteously and oppressing the poor & needy
or
  1. “Sinner” is used as semi-technical term; meaning “persons who do not keep the Law and all things connected with it” (such as the various traditional expansions and enlargements & applications of it) which were observed by strictly observant groups among the Pharisees.
The Pharisees in the gospels tend to come out as spiritual snobs, looking down on those who were less observant than they were: they were pious, and that was what mattered. So that if they were the Chasidim, the “pious ones”, those less observant than they were by contrast not “pious”; and were therefore “sinners”. Hebrew thinks in black and white: to love someone less than someone else is to hate them - not to love them less than the other. So to love Jacob, is to hate Esau. To love one’s relatives more than God, is to hate God - not to love God less than one’s relatives. To be less pious than some - is not to be pious at all. So if you don’t belong to the Chasidic Pharisees - you are no better than one of those Gentiles who does not know the Law at all.

The text would then mean, paraphrased a bit: “God does not hear that unobservant lot, who don’t do all the ritual washings, are ritually unclean, get mixed up with unclean folk like Gentiles & lepers & such; but only us pious folk, who fast twice a week, keep the law in all its strictness, including the traditions of the fathers, and keep ourselves clear of every kind of moral and ritual impurity”.

IMO, there is an implied criticism of Jesus - who mixed with all kinds of ritually unclean people: the woman with a haemorrhage whom Luke mentions in chapter 18, would have made Jesus “unclean” purely by touching Him.

It is worth pointing out that the distinction between moral impurity and ritual impurity was not made in ancient Israel - we treat the former as sin, but not the latter. Both were regarded as breaches of “holiness” in antiquity - so both were “sin”: menstruation made one as impure as murder did. Which is why, in Leviticus, menstruation “cut off” the Israelite from Israel as fully as murder or blasphemy - both meant one was no longer a member of the holy people of God; except that the death sentence made one “cutting off” permanent, while the “cutting off” resulting from menstruation was temporary (FWIW, this is why Catholic mothers used to have to be “churched” after being delivered of their children).

The passage is probably not talking specifically about unrepentant sinners - but we can use the passage as a warning not to live in unrepented sin even so. ##
 
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BibleReader:
In my hypothetical, the nagger stays persistently, stubbornly and dedicatedly married to his big sin. The porn-peeker/masturbator goes to war with his sin, with God’s help.
***Hi, BibleReader!

I understand your premise… still, it does not demonstrate that the porn-person is repentant nor that he/she has confessed his/her sin…

I do not mean to be disagreable… but Christ is not just throwing words out there and hoping that something catches… He said that He did not come to abolish the Law but to fulfill it… in Matthews 5:17 through 7:27)… Jesus is not ambiguous at all… He tells us, in the past people twisted God’s Word to love some and hate others I tell you Love everyone, even your enemies! (Paraphrased)… He says… you think you know more than God? …if you look at a woman and in your mind you lust after her, my friend you have committed adultery! (again paraphrased)

Yes, we can take Scripture and twist and pull till our interpretation is reflected… but Jesus says: Not all who claim to abide in me are doing so–so don’t you call me Lord and not do what I say! (again paraphrased)…

The fact of the matter is that unless we repent and we seek God and confess our sins… we are not going to catch God’s attention… He will not turn His face towards us and listen to our prayers!

Does that mean that we must be free of sin–there’s only one free of sin, Jesus Christ, the Word incarnate… the rest of us we need God’s Mercy and Might to be cleansed–daily… sometimes even more often than that! (1 John 1:5 through 2:17)

God Bless!

Angel***
 
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