What does St. Thomas say about Immigration

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In looking at the debate over immigration, it is almost automatically assumed that the Church’s position is one of unconditional charity toward those who enter the nation, legally or illegally.

However, is this the case? What does the Bible say about immigration? What do Church doctors and theologians say? Above all, what does the greatest of doctors, Saint Thomas Aquinas, say about immigration? Does his opinion offer some insights to the burning issues now shaking the nation and blurring the national borders?

Immigration is a modern problem and so some might think that the medieval Saint Thomas would have no opinion about the problem. And yet, he does. One has only to look in his masterpiece, the Summa Theologica, in the first part of the second part, question 105, article 3 (I-II, Q. 105, Art. 3). There one finds his analysis based on biblical insights that can add to the national debate. They are entirely applicable to the present.

Saint Thomas: “Man’s relations with foreigners are twofold: peaceful, and hostile: and in directing both kinds of relation the Law contained suitable precepts.”

Commentary: In making this affirmation, Saint Thomas affirms that not all immigrants are equal. Every nation has the right to decide which immigrants are beneficial, that is, “peaceful,” to the common good. As a matter of self-defense, the State can reject those criminal elements, traitors, enemies and others who it deems harmful or “hostile” to its citizens.

The second thing he affirms is that the manner of dealing with immigration is determined by law in the cases of both beneficial and “hostile” immigration. The State has the right and duty to apply its law.

Saint Thomas: “For the Jews were offered three opportunities of peaceful relations with foreigners. First, when foreigners passed through their land as travelers. Secondly, when they came to dwell in their land as newcomers. And in both these respects the Law made kind provision in its precepts: for it is written (Exodus 22:21): ’Thou shalt not molest a stranger [advenam]’; and again (Exodus 22:9): ’Thou shalt not molest a stranger [peregrino].’”

Commentary: Here Saint Thomas acknowledges the fact that others will want to come to visit or even stay in the land for some time. Such foreigners deserved to be treated with charity, respect and courtesy, which is due to any human of good will. In these cases, the law can and should protect foreigners from being badly treated or molested.

Saint Thomas: “Thirdly, when any foreigners wished to be admitted entirely to their fellowship and mode of worship. With regard to these a certain order was observed. For they were not at once admitted to citizenship: just as it was law with some nations that no one was deemed a citizen except after two or three generations, as the Philosopher says (Polit. iii, 1).”

Commentary: Saint Thomas recognizes that there will be those who will want to stay and become citizens of the lands they visit. However, he sets as the first condition for acceptance a desire to integrate fully into what would today be considered the culture and life of the nation.

A second condition is that the granting of citizenship would not be immediate. The integration process takes time. People need to adapt themselves to the nation. He quotes the philosopher Aristotle as saying this process was once deemed to take two or three generations. Saint Thomas himself does not give a time frame for this integration, but he does admit that it can take a long time.

Saint Thomas: “The reason for this was that if foreigners were allowed to meddle with the affairs of a nation as soon as they settled down in its midst, many dangers might occur, since the foreigners not yet having the common good firmly at heart might attempt something hurtful to the people.”

Commentary: The common sense of Saint Thomas is certainly not politically correct but it is logical. The theologian notes that living in a nation is a complex thing. It takes time to know the issues affecting the nation. Those familiar with the long history of their nation are in the best position to make the long-term decisions about its future. It is harmful and unjust to put the future of a place in the hands of those recently arrived, who, although through no fault of their own, have little idea of what is happening or has happened in the nation. Such a policy could lead to the destruction of the nation.

As an illustration of this point, Saint Thomas later notes that the Jewish people did not treat all nations equally since those nations closer to them were more quickly integrated into the population than those who were not as close. Some hostile peoples were not to be admitted at all into full fellowship due to their enmity toward the Jewish people.

Saint Thomas: “Nevertheless it was possible by dispensation for a man to be admitted to citizenship on account of some act of virtue: thus it is related (Judith 14:6) that Achior, the captain of the children of Ammon, ‘was joined to the people of Israel, with all the succession of his kindred.’”

Commentary: That is to say, the rules were not rigid. There were exceptions that were granted based on the circumstances. However, such exceptions were not arbitrary but always had in mind the common good. The example of Achior describes the citizenship bestowed upon the captain and his children for the good services rendered to the nation.

These are some of the thoughts of Saint Thomas Aquinas on the matter of immigration based on biblical principles. It is clear that immigration must have two things in mind: the first is the nation’s unity; and the second is the common good.

Continue reading here

returntoorder.org/2014/07/saint-thomas-say-immigration-2/
 
Thanks for posting 7kidpapa.

Pope Francis just reaffirmed much of the same thing.
Pope Says Sovereign Nations Have the Right to Secure Their Borders
By Charmaine Lomabao - January 23, 2017
. . . During his interview with El País, a Spanish Newspaper, the pontiff reaffirmed the Catholic’s main doctrine regarding immigration which says every nation has its right to secure its borders and receive immigrants in an orderly and controlled manner.
“Yes, every country has the right to control its borders, who comes and who goes… and those countries at risk [from terrorism or such things] have even more right to control them more.”” Pope said on Friday. . . . .
. . . . The Pope reiterated that every state has the right to secure its borders for the safety of its citizens, while he insisted that leaders and nations should keep their hearts open for people who want to migrate to their nation in search of a better life. . . .
newsline.com/pope-says-sovereign-nations-have-the-right-to-secure-their-borders/

(Incidentally. My wife just got done reading Horvat’s book “Return To Order”. She enjoyed it)

Keep up the good work and welcome to CAF (I see you just have seven posts).

God bless.

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Commentary: In making this affirmation, Saint Thomas affirms that not all immigrants are equal. Every nation has the right to decide which immigrants are beneficial, that is, “peaceful,” to the common good. As a matter of self-defense, the State can reject those criminal elements, traitors, enemies and others who it deems harmful or “hostile” to its citizens.
Exactly. Criminal elements, traitors, enemies, harmful, and hostile

Now, what he does not seem to specify is whether or not it is right to broadcast this over an entire nation where the government may be arbitrarily “declared” at odds with the defending nation, but where it is nevetheless uncertain that the people of the foreign government are in support of it. One would be hardpressed to make the case that most Mexican immigrants, or that Syrian refugees even remotely fall under the above-listed categories. In the case of Mexico, at least, we cannot come close to claiming enemy status because of the simple fact we have a lot of huge trade agreements.
 
Exactly. Criminal elements, traitors, enemies, harmful, and hostile

Now, what he does not seem to specify is whether or not it is right to broadcast this over an entire nation where the government may be arbitrarily “declared” at odds with the defending nation, but where it is nevetheless uncertain that the people of the foreign government are in support of it. One would be hardpressed to make the case that most Mexican immigrants, or that Syrian refugees even remotely fall under the above-listed categories. In the case of Mexico, at least, we cannot come close to claiming enemy status because of the simple fact we have a lot of huge trade agreements.
There can be criminal elements in immigrants. The only way to know is do the background checks, the vetting process. However, when you don’t trust the vetting process, you can’t really do any background checks. If you can’t do background checks, you can’t check for criminal elements. Therefore, it is fine to temporary suspend immigrants from nations where background checks aren’t reliable.

Of course, there should be continued work to fix the problem. There should never be just a permanent ban. I can understand if people worry the current administration would say the ban is only temporary while internally having no intention of ever lifting the ban. In some cases, it’s out of our hands though. In war-torn countries, the chaotic situation might make background checks impossible. Then the only option is to wait until order is restored.
 
Exactly. Criminal elements, traitors, enemies, harmful, and hostile

Now, what he does not seem to specify is whether or not it is right to broadcast this over an entire nation where the government may be arbitrarily “declared” at odds with the defending nation, but where it is nevetheless uncertain that the people of the foreign government are in support of it. One would be hardpressed to make the case that most Mexican immigrants, or that Syrian refugees even remotely fall under the above-listed categories. In the case of Mexico, at least, we cannot come close to claiming enemy status because of the simple fact we have a lot of huge trade agreements.
You seem to assume that the vast majority (as in, 90-99%) of Mexican immigrants are just hard-working decent people who just want to support their families, and are being unfairly persecuted by mean ol’ Trump.

Well, I think many who are on the frontline in the states that border Mexico, would beg to differ. They may not be a majority, but there are unfortunately many actual criminals, as in gangsters, drug traffickers, human traffickers, etc., who do take advantage of lax border security.

There are even those who actually have an ideological belief that they are entitled to migrate to these states because they belonged to Mexico in the first place and were illegally “stolen” from them by the US. I’m not sure I should call migrants with that mindset to be “enemies”, but I certainly wouldn’t call them “friends” either. They are certainly “hostile”.

I am somewhat in the middle of the immigration issue. I do have sympathy for “illegal” immigrants who were in desperate straits, those in danger of death from religious or other forms of persecution, those who escaped war zones or violent crime zones, who were brought over as children and had no choice in the matter, etc.

But much of the news coverage of “immigrant activists”; and this is coverage that’s mainly sympathetic to them, seems to blur the line between illegal and legal immigration in a way that I find disturbing. The unsaid message seems to be “coming into a country illegally is No Big Deal, sure it’s technically against the law but why should that matter as long as you don’t commit *real * crimes.”

I’m not a big Sean Spicer fan but I can’t really argue with what he said on Trump’s behalf about simply enforcing existing laws.

I mean, what if a President or other executive announced they were going to crack down on enforcing DWI laws, or DV laws, CPS laws, etc.

Although there would certainly be some people who would protest such crackdowns out of a fear that overzealous government agents would go too far, I just can’t imagine the same amount of media coverage with the slant that “innocent people are going to be victimized and families are being torn apart” with the unspoken assumption that crossing a border illegally carries the same (lack of) moral weight as crossing in the middle of a street illegally.
 
Of course, there should be continued work to fix the problem. There should never be just a permanent ban. I can understand if people worry the current administration would say the ban is only temporary while internally having no intention of ever lifting the ban. In some cases, it’s out of our hands though. In war-torn countries, the chaotic situation might make background checks impossible. Then the only option is to wait until order is restored.
45 first mentioned extreme vetting during the election. The election was held in November and he won. This is now near the end of February. Thus far I haven't seen a single change or addition to the vetting process.
 
Exactly. Criminal elements, traitors, enemies, harmful, and hostile

Now, what he does not seem to specify is whether or not it is right to broadcast this over an entire nation where the government may be arbitrarily “declared” at odds with the defending nation, but where it is nevetheless uncertain that the people of the foreign government are in support of it. One would be hardpressed to make the case that most Mexican immigrants, or that Syrian refugees even remotely fall under the above-listed categories. In the case of Mexico, at least, we cannot come close to claiming enemy status because of the simple fact we have a lot of huge trade agreements.
I think we must distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants here. Legal immigrants from what ever country automatically go through a vetting process that would eliminate the criminal elements, traitors, enemies, harmful and hostile. Those immigrants who come illegally however, are never vetted and we have no idea about their backgrounds, sad to say. We don’t even know their true names. I have a family member who works for the States Attorney’s Office. It is not uncommon that an illegal immigrant would have a list of several different names that they go by. So who is this person to the United States.

As for the Refugee’s, who St. Thomas does not speak of, IMO should all (from any country), be vetted as much as possible prior to allowing them into our country. Again, our government should make it a point to know as much as possible about them prior to bringing them here and making them our neighbors.
 
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