What Happened to Saint Joseph?

[ClemtheCatholic]

Does the Church teach that he specifically wasn’t there at Jesus’ death? (Though I guess we can assume it because of the responsibilities given to John…) Is there any traditional teaching regarding Saint Joseph?

Thanks,
ClemtheCatholic

 

[McCall1981]

I think it’s generally believed that St. Joseph died sometime between when Jesus was left behind at the Temple and when He began His ministry, though I don’t know of this being explicitly stated anywhere.

 

[Christy_Beth]

I believe that it is said that Joseph was dead by the time of Jesus’ death. Granted, he wasn’t given a part where he said anything, but he would have been there had he been alive. Mary, moving in with the apostle John, was, apparently, alone. When Jesus was preaching and all, nothing is said about how she was supported. Some things we won’t know until we get to heaven.

 

[Joe_5859]

There is no explicit doctrine on when exactly Joseph died, but the longstanding view of tradition is that he died sometime between the finding of Jesus in the Temple at age 12 and the start of his public ministry at age 30.

The fact that St. Joseph is nowhere mentioned after finding Jesus in the Temple as a boy is consistent with this. The fact that Jesus entrusted Mary to John from the cross is also consistent with it.

This is why St. Joseph has long been the patron of a happy death. It is presumed he died with Mary and Jesus at his side. What a way to go.

 

[ClemtheCatholic]

Okay, thanks guys! This answers my question.

 

[marymary1975]

I am pretty sure St. faustina wrote about this in her diary. I remember reading St. Joseph had the most blessed death because he died holding Jesus hand. Try reading her diary I bet is in there.

 

[Joe_5859]

I am pretty sure St. faustina wrote about this in her diary. I remember reading St. Joseph had the most blessed death because he died holding Jesus hand. Try reading her diary I bet is in there.

You may be correct, but I’d just point out that St. Faustina’s vision would be in the realm of private revelation. Thus we might feel free to believe it, but it is not doctrine that things happened exactly as described therein.

 

[marymary1975]

You may be correct, but I’d just point out that St. Faustina’s vision would be in the realm of private revelation. Thus we might feel free to believe it, but it is not doctrine that things happened exactly as described therein.

Yes that is true but also goes along the lines of the traditional view.

 

[Southern]

You may be correct, but I’d just point out that St. Faustina’s vision would be in the realm of private revelation. Thus we might feel free to believe it, but it is not doctrine that things happened exactly as described therein.

The Church approves it. They made her a Saint.

 

[dshix]

The Church approves it. They made her a Saint.

Approving a person for sainthood is not the same as approving their private revelation.

 

[Spencerian]

The Church approves it. They made her a Saint.

I’m afraid that’s not correct. Canonization does not automatically make any private revelations of that saint as doctrinal or dogmatic teachings of the Church.

But such revelations can be highly regarded. St. Faustina did get a “bump” by Blessed Pope John Paul II in his approval of her Divine Mercy revelation, which is celebrated the Sunday after Easter like a feast day. But it’s not a requirement of any of the laity to participate or accept it.

 

[SMHW]

The Church approves it. They made her a Saint.

Yes. But even if the Church gives approval to private revelation --even the private revelations of saints-- She still does not *require *the faithful to believe it.

 

[Southern]

True!!! But Pope John Paul II highly approved it!!! I miss him!

 

[PJM]

=ClemtheCatholic;10578027]Does the Church teach that he specifically wasn’t there at Jesus’ death? (Though I guess we can assume it because of the responsibilities given to John…) Is there any traditional teaching regarding Saint Joseph?

Thanks,
ClemtheCatholic

**YES,

Heres why**
Family, especially fathers where held in VERY hign esteem. Had Joesph been alive durring the three-year Ministry of Christ; it would have greatly complicated the Meaashe of human and Devine Natures of Christ.

Jn.6:41-42 “The Jews therefore murmured at him, because he had said: I am the living bread which came down from heaven. And they said: Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How then saith he, I came down from heaven?”

 

[Immacolata]

There is no doctrine nor dogma of the exact manner Joseph died; however, the general tradition is that he died somewhere between the finding of Jesus (at the age of twelve) in the Temple to the beginning of His public ministry (perhaps the wedding at Cana).

It is also generally believed he died a happy (as in, non-painful) and holy death, as he is the patron saint of both. As mentioned previously on this thread, it is said that he died a happy death in St. Faustina’s diary (although, being private revelation, we are not, of course, subject to believe it as if it were dogma).

 

[SoldierOfGod]

There is no doctrine nor dogma of the exact manner Joseph died; however, the general tradition is that he died somewhere between the finding of Jesus (at the age of twelve) in the Temple to the beginning of His public ministry (perhaps the wedding at Cana).

It is also generally believed he died a happy (as in, non-painful) and holy death, as he is the patron saint of both. As mentioned previously on this thread, it is said that he died a happy death in St. Faustina’s diary (although, being private revelation, we are not, of course, subject to believe it as if it were dogma).

A little extra something I thought of in regard to the lack of doctrine and history: St Joseph is the patron saint of fathers, and for a father, it no longer becomes about them. Fathers who put their wives and children before their desires will not ask for remembrances. So long as the ones they loved are cared for, that is what matters to them. It fits his role in the story of salvation! He didn’t push for center stage, but let it be about those who were foretold. Jesus saved the world, and conquered death itsel, while the Blessed woman Joseph cared for became the Queen God meant her to be, second to her God, Son, and Spiritual Husband alone. What could be said about oneself in the face of such glories to come!