What if the Catholic Church isn't "infallible," but is still the one true Church?

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Hmmm… I must admit I don’t understand why Catholics teach that their church is always infallible. I can understand teaching that its TRUE, but I just can’t comprehend a belief that it was always true, on every minor and major doctrinal point, throughout all history.
We don’t believe anything of the sort. You won’t find “Limbo” (of infants) mentioned in the modern Catechism (but you find it in the Baltimore Catechism). It was a theory, but was taught as the “common belief” (to quote the BC) for centuries.
 
Either the Catholic Church is infallible, or it isn’t. And by my saying the Church is infallible, I mean that its teachings are protected from error.

But if the Church is not infallible, then that means the Church’s own definition of infallibility could be… fallible.

Nevertheless, the Catholic Church could still be Christ’s original church. The Pope could still be the successor of Peter. The Church could still be guided by the Holy Spirit.

But maybe our understanding of infallibility has been too exaggerated over the years. We have very specific guidelines for how we are to know some teaching is actually, truly infallible. Sometimes, though, these guides have seemed to legalistic or too specific. How do we know the Pope will be protected from error when he addresses the entire Church in faith or morals, ex cathedra? How do we know a teaching is guaranteed true just because all or most of the bishops happen to be in agreement? Etc

Any serious thoughts?

EDIT: Sometimes I have been “tempted” 😉 to think like some Christians do: They may acknowledge that the Holy Spirit has guided the church through the ages; they may say God has had a role in the office of the papacy, in the great councils of the church, in the formation of the scriptures, etc. But sometimes I think, like they do, that there is no strict guarantee of absolute certainty on a matter of teaching.
*The infallibility of the Church on faith and moral is a dogma of faith, which must be believed (assented to). There would be no visible Church of Christ without it.

Catechism of the Catholic Church*889 “In order to preserve the Church in the purity of the faith handed on by the Apostles, Christ who is the Truth willed to confer on her a share in His own infallibility”

890 “it is the magisterium’s task to preserve God’s people from deviations and to guarantee them the objective possibility of professing the true faith without error”
 
We don’t believe anything of the sort. You won’t find “Limbo” (of infants) mentioned in the modern Catechism (but you find it in the Baltimore Catechism). It was a theory, but was taught as the “common belief” (to quote the BC) for centuries.
Oh, I see. Thanks for clarifying – that makes a lot more sense than what I had previously understood. I find that sometimes its very easy to misunderstand what Catholics are saying; for the longest time I thought your teachings on communion meant that the atoms in the bread and wine were *physically * transmuted into flesh and blood. 🤷
 
Would you say the early Church exercised infallibility when determining which books belonged to divinely inspired Scripture?
Yes, but I do not believe all further teachings have been so inspired, nor that all teachings of those times were necessarily inspired; indeed, I would argue that the farther we get from Christ, the more potential for error.
That seems odd to me that you would say the Church was infallibly inspired when identifying Scripture but not afterward or on other teachings. On what basis do you make that assertion other than a gratuitous pick-and-choose? And I thought we already agreed passage of time is no limitation for the Holy Spirit. :o
 
I think the NT -27 is a great point but I also think the verse in Bible simply can’t be ignored. God works through men and infallibly. For example…

usccb.org/bible/acts/9
Ananias went and entered the house; laying his hands on him, he said, “Saul, my brother, the Lord has sent me, Jesus who appeared to you on the way by which you came, that you may regain your sight and be filled with the holy Spirit.”
Immediately things like scales fell from his eyes and he regained his sight. He got up and was baptized,
Before this above verse whats interesting is the prior conversation with the Lord, in particular here…
He[Saul] said, “Who are you, sir?”
He wasn’t justified until he went to Ananias heard the Good News, repented and was baptized. 👍
 
Ofor the longest time I thought your teachings on communion meant that the atoms in the bread and wine were *physically * transmuted into flesh and blood. 🤷
That’s called *carnalism *(the idea that the bread/wine physically become the Body and Blood, but our senses are prevented from perceiving it). It was a Twelfth Century heresy among a small group of Spanish nus.
 
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