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summa8447
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What is faith?.. you know aside from “the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.”
I consider myself through the lenses of Thomas when he doubted the others word on seeing a resurrected Jesus. Jesus did not say how dare you you insolent boob, he invited him to explore and find belief through his senses and then called him to a higher calling of faith.
We have senses to experience the natural world, but we have faith for the supernatural. Let’s call it a spiritense instead of sense.
How do know if I’m spritensing something with faith? By what means do I verify/discern?
Also how did the authors of scripture know the were spiritensing the Holy Spirit? Or the Popes and counsels when they were defining dogma or canonizing saints?
Well, apart from some apparitions, some of which have probably been debunked and scriptures (like burning bushes and doves from the clouds), many of which are filled with things that do not meet up with archeological studies (I’m thinking here largely about ancient Israel, but somewhat also mean the New Testament too), we don’t exactly here of voices out of the sky or a red phone in the Vatican. So how do we get our knowledge of/and/or/from God.
I can be blind or deaf, but can the spiritense of Faith go bad too?
Without faith I can’t see how original sin gets transfered vicariously to me or how vicarious redemption works or what God gets from the sacrifice of his Son anyway, or out of sending people who don’t believe in him and hurt his ego or who commit mortal sins (he designed Adam and Eve knowing they would malfunction) to hell?
Without my faith working I cannot perceive these things
Thanks
Summa8447
I consider myself through the lenses of Thomas when he doubted the others word on seeing a resurrected Jesus. Jesus did not say how dare you you insolent boob, he invited him to explore and find belief through his senses and then called him to a higher calling of faith.
We have senses to experience the natural world, but we have faith for the supernatural. Let’s call it a spiritense instead of sense.
How do know if I’m spritensing something with faith? By what means do I verify/discern?
Also how did the authors of scripture know the were spiritensing the Holy Spirit? Or the Popes and counsels when they were defining dogma or canonizing saints?
Well, apart from some apparitions, some of which have probably been debunked and scriptures (like burning bushes and doves from the clouds), many of which are filled with things that do not meet up with archeological studies (I’m thinking here largely about ancient Israel, but somewhat also mean the New Testament too), we don’t exactly here of voices out of the sky or a red phone in the Vatican. So how do we get our knowledge of/and/or/from God.
I can be blind or deaf, but can the spiritense of Faith go bad too?
Without faith I can’t see how original sin gets transfered vicariously to me or how vicarious redemption works or what God gets from the sacrifice of his Son anyway, or out of sending people who don’t believe in him and hurt his ego or who commit mortal sins (he designed Adam and Eve knowing they would malfunction) to hell?
Without my faith working I cannot perceive these things
Thanks
Summa8447
